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Re: Mexico UFO The Sceptics Counterattack - Yturria

From: Santiago Yturria <syturria.nul>
Date: Wed, 26 May 2004 12:32:14 -0500
Fwd Date: Wed, 26 May 2004 14:25:59 -0400
Subject: Re: Mexico UFO The Sceptics Counterattack - Yturria

>From: Frank Warren <frank-warren.nul>
>To: UFO UpDates - Toronto <ufoupdates.nul>
>Date: Tue, 25 May 2004 07:14:49 -0700
>Subject: Re: Mexico UFO The Sceptics Counterattack

>>From: John Velez <johnvelez.aic.nul>
>>Date: Thu, 20 May 2004 14:02:19 -0400
>>To: ufoupdates.nul
>>Subject: Re: Mexico UFO The Sceptics Counterattack

>>>From: Bruce Maccabee <brumac.nul>
>>>To: <ufoupdates.nul>
>>>Date: Sun, 16 May 2004 18:01:42 -0400
>>>Subject: Re: Mexico UFO The Sceptics Counterattack


>>BTW, these guys had to be armed to the teeth. Any mention of
>>weaponry on board the airplane? If so, what kind of weapons? If
>>I'm not mistaken, these drug interdiction planes are prepared to
>>force the bad-guys down on the deck if they have to.

>>The data _is_ there. It _has_to_be.

>Good Day John, Bruce, et al,

>John, although asking for any additional records, ground
>support, radar, etc., will of course answer the question if any
>exists, I don't think it's sagacious to 'assume' anything in
>regard to this investigation, or for that matter any
>investigation. Our nemeses (debunkers, naysayers, pelicanists
>etc.) 'assume'  that there is a plausible explanation for UFOs,
>so knee-jerk explications are published in mainstream media
>without proper scientific protocol.

>The Mexicans observed and recorded the phenomena, and for those
>of us that partake in any post investigation or research, it is
>necessary for us to follow said protocol, and draw theorem from
>the known facts as to ascertain just what was witnessed.

>Separately, in Santiago Yturria's initial report he said:

>"This airplane is programmed only for surveillance and detection
>procedures, not for interception or combat maneuvres. Their duty
>s to detect and identify drug dealers flights and then
>immediately report them to the base where combat planes are
>scrambled to intercept those narcotics smugglers."

>This statement seems to negate any 'offensive' weapons, however;
>this still needs to be verified.

>I think the question that arises is, "were any planes
>'scrambled' in defense of the Merlin when it became the


Commander Castanon decided not to request backup assistance
because he was expecting to make visual contact till the last
moment. He was in contact with the base reporting they were
seeing unknown objects through the FLIR.

Mayor Castanon reported at 17:07:14

"Listen we don't know what are we seeing, they are just luminous
objects that are flying at the same altitude as us. We cannot
know what's their distance."

I assume he was trying to be sure before requesting further
actions because the objects were not visible at to the eyes so
it must have been a moment of a hard decision in the middle of
a strange and unprecedent situation.


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