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Re: 1947 At Roswell, Corona And Other Places -

From: Gildas Bourdais <gbourdais.nul>
Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2004 12:44:11 +0200
Fwd Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2004 14:23:45 -0500
Subject: Re: 1947 At Roswell, Corona And Other Places -

>From: Loren Coleman <lcoleman.nul>
>To: UFO UpDates - Toronto <ufoupdates.nul>
>Date: Sat, 27 Mar 2004 22:19:40 -0500
>Subject: 1947 At Roswell, Corona And Other Places

>Theo Paijmans writes to a Fortean List (and has given me
>permission to forward his remark and my reply to UFO folks):

>"Roswell? Other than a crash of a Mogul balloon and Goddard's
>early rocket experiments, I can't seem to recall any remarkable
>occurrence that would merit the place being 'notorious for the


>to forward to associates interested in such matters. And what
>did I notice? That the first victims were members of the Otero
>family. I don't recall running across the name "Otero" before
>today, only having see it earlier this evening as the county in
>which Alamogordo is located. Therefore, taking the next step, I
>wanted to see what "Otero" means, via the handy AltaVista Babel
>Translation tool. Well, alright, the word Otero =3D Knoll.

>Just another evening of Fortean coincidences, I guess. ;-}

>Thanks to Theo for sending me on this little sidetrip.

Loren, and the List,

Sorry, all this sounds like Fortean gibberish to me.

I feel able to say that, after having studied carefully the
Roswell case, especially all the good work done by so many
researchers over the years.

Even after the demise of witnesses like Kaufmann and
Ragsdale, the case of the UFO remains strong, without the need
for esoteric arguments ot he Fortean kind.

Among the strong points is the complete elimination of the Mogul
story, thanks to the efforts of David Rudiak and others. I added
my little piece to that, pointing to the probability that Brazel
did find the remains of a little balloon cluster on June 14,
such as the NYU team launched everyday in WhiteSands.

There were probably flowered taped radar targets attached to it,
and this would explain very simply his testimony of July 8. But
it had nothing to do with the discovery of the debris field,
beginning of July. I have explained all that in my new book,
released recently in French, called:

"Roswell. Inquiries, Secrecy and Disinformation"
("Roswell. Enqu=EAtes, secret et d=E9sinformation")

I have writen a little article in english to present it,
which can be viewed at:


Another strong point of Roswell, clearly, is that several
credible witnesses have mentioned a site closer to Roswell for
the discovery, and secret retrieval, of the crashed craft. I am
not speaking here of Kaufmann and Ragsdale.

For instance, Lewis Rickett and a new witness, Chester Barton
(see IUR of Summer 2001), have mentioned a site at about 45
minutes north of Roswell. Other winesses pointing to that are
William Woodie, Frankie Rowe and an anonymous witness quoted by
Dennis Balthaser.

BTW, I have read a discussion between Jan Aldrich and others
which took place in June 2003 and was published in the "Ohio UFO
Notebook" of Summer 2003. A series of skeptical arguments were
presented against Roswell. For instance, that the base should
have been put under alert. Well, I don't agree. If there was a
policy of great secrecy for the retrieval of the craft, the last
thing to do was to put the base under alert ! And the fact that
some simple soldiers, among whom some cooks, were recruited on
the spot to mount guard, does not sound like a strong argument
either. If the military police was alredy fully mobilised in the
field, then there may have been some shortage of guards, and
that's all there was to it. Please note that, according to
several witnesses, they were all sworn to secrecy, and at least
some people were rapidly transfered to distant bases.

Gildas Bourdais

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