From: Alfred Lehmberg <alienview.nul> Date: Sat, 27 Mar 2004 07:00:13 -0600 Fwd Date: Sat, 27 Mar 2004 12:36:56 -0500 Subject: Re: Phoenix Lights - Man Made Hoax Devices? - >From: Bruce Maccabee <brumac.nul> >Date: Fri, 26 Mar 2004 14:54:00 -0500 >To: <ufoupdates.nul> >Subject: Re: Phoenix Lights - Man Made Hoax Devices? >>From: Bill Hamilton <skyman22.nul> >>To: UFO UpDates - Toronto <ufoupdates.nul> >>Date: Thu, 25 Mar 2004 07:45:32 -0800 >>Subject: Re: Phoenix Lights - Man Made Hoax Devices? >>>From: Bruce Maccabee <brumac.nul> >>>To: <ufoupdates.nul> >>>Date: Thu, 25 Mar 2004 00:10:52 -0500 >>>Subject: Re: Phoenix Lights - Man Made Hoax Devices? ><snip> >>>According to National Air Guard spokespeople in the summer of >>>1997, the flares were released at an unusually high altitude. >>>Capt. Eileen Benz, spokesperson for the Arizona National Guard, >>>and the person who discovered that flares had been dropped that >>>evening by the Maryland National Guard (Snowbirds), flares were >>>dropped at an altitude of 15,000 ft. Capt. Drew Sullins, >>>spokesman for the MD Nat. Guard. said a squad of A-10 using the >>>Bary Goldwater training range had "dumped several flares" at >>>high altitude. >>Bruce, you fail to mention that at that altitude and distance, >>these so-called perfectly round amber "flares" would be 1,500 >>feet in diameter. >I don't know what you mean by this. The flares are fixed in size >by the metal tubes housing the fuel that is burned. Are you >trying to say thatthe flares change their size with altitude? >>There are too many discrepancis in the flare >>hypothesis and you know that we went round and round on this. I >>have the FOIA docs. The A-10s dropped LUU-2 flares over the >>North Tac Range. At least 63 of them. How come no one saw 63 >l>ights? >You mean. how come no one in Phoenix reported the lights? >Probably dropped at a lower altitude. The high altitude drops or >"dumps" may have been under special circumstances. On the other >hand, from analyzing the 1998 lights I would conclude that some >flare are dropped at high altitude every year. You know - before the casual reader gets numb on this, perhaps an intermission reminder is in order, a non-protein torpondo, a micro-mini mind missile... a helpful interjection. Before we allow ourselves to allow a debunking of flares to discredit the whole Phoenix affair, there was more than enough, similar, stuff going on... recorded before and after the 'flare' incident... and Errol just last week hosted a very credible woman - Dr. Lynne D. Kitei - author and witness of 'The Phoenix Lights' (who we've been very quiet about) who puts the point to that - eh? By all means lets wash the details and see what's colorfast... but I think it entirely reasonable that flares were released at that altitude (which is otherwise ludicrous... I don't know the airway structure in that area, but a spent flare, which are kind of designed to 'hang' for obvious reasons, and burned out would be a hazard to pelicans, private, and commercial aircraft...) released at that altitude to confuse the issue... and to give someone like Kal K. Korff a reason to discredit the whole apparent bleedin' thing... using the specific to fallaciously defuse the aggregate. We all need to remember that something very ~real~ occurred in and around that time... whatever the disposition of 'flares'. alienview.nul www.AlienView.net Photo Album: http://www.alienview.net/AVAlbum.htm (send picture as attachment to alienview.nul) Splash page: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AlienViewGroup/ Radio Show & Splash Page: http://www.alienview.net/alienviews.htm Radio Show Archives: Out of Service at this time... http://www.alienview.net/N2Ltune.html -- The music in me...
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