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Re: Phoenix Lights - Man Made Hoax Devices? -

From: Barry Taylor <stingray.nul>
Date: Mon, 22 Mar 2004 11:15:00 +1100
Fwd Date: Mon, 22 Mar 2004 10:54:09 -0500
Subject: Re: Phoenix Lights - Man Made Hoax Devices? -

>From: Bruce Maccabee <brumac.nul>
>To: <ufoupdates.nul>
>Date: Fri, 19 Mar 2004 11:31:40 -0500
>Subject: Re: Phoenix Lights - Man Made Hoax Devices?

>From: Barry Taylor <stingray.nul>
>To: <ufoupdates.nul>
>Date: Fri, 19 Mar 2004 18:21:04 +1100
>Subject: Phoenix Lights - Man Made Hoax Devices?

Hi list members,

Bruce, after studying the footage overnight, especially by Mike
Kryzton taken from Moon Mountain, I found the following...

I fully agree with you when you say the 13th March 1997, 10PM
event was flares dropped by aircraft. They do drop and move as
you suggest. This event was 'not' a UFO craft/objects.

Overlay of the nightime and daytime images 'does' show the
flares were dropped 'behind' the peak in the Estrella range. I
will put these images on my site soon.

Study of the  Kryzton footage I have, begins with three flares
already illuminated. The fourth illuminates. If you count the
seconds between the ignition of flares 5,6,7 and 8, you will
find the following.

Flare 5 = 8 seconds
Flare 6 = 9 seconds
Flare 7 = 5 seconds
Flare 8 = 8 seconds

You say in your report:

"The size of the array is given by the following estimated
distances: between the first and second lights to appear was
about 7.5 miles and between the second and ninth lights is about
3.7 miles"

The problem of actual distance arises when working out the speed
of aircraft dropping the flares and time between flare display.

If the flares were say 60 miles away, the shortest time between
flare ignition is 5 seconds. If the flares were say 2 miles
apart, then the aircraft would have to flying at 1440 MPH to
cover the 2 mile distance in 5 sec. If the distance between
flares were 4 miles, you would have to double this speed. Same
applies if flares 70-80 miles away. This does seem unlikely does
it not?

If the speed of the aircraft was a more likely 200MPH, then the
following would apply...

200mph = 0.055 miles/sec. or .227 of a mile in 5 sec. (1/4 mile
in 5 sec.)

Average drop time of flares 5 to 8 is 7.625 sec. 0.055 x 7.625 =
0.42 of a mile between each flare. (average) Multiply this by 4
(number of flares) = 1.677 miles between flares 5 and 8.

Draw a line on an overlay (day & night) image from flare 5 and 8
to the mountain top and ground to the Phoenix city far boarder.
Is this ground distance close to 1.677 miles?

If close, then this means that the flares were dropped at a
close distance behind the mountain and not 70-80 miles.

Your thoughts.


Barry Taylor

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