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Re: Jerry Black To Polygraph Bruce Maccabee -

From: Edward Gehrman <egehrman.nul>
Date: Sat, 20 Mar 2004 15:44:13 -0800 (PST)
Fwd Date: Sun, 21 Mar 2004 20:26:32 -0500
Subject: Re: Jerry Black To Polygraph Bruce Maccabee -

>From: Jerome Clark <jkclark.nul>
>To: <ufoupdates.nul>
>Date: Sat, 20 Mar 2004 12:58:19 -0600
>Subject: Re: Jerry Black To Polygraph Bruce Maccabee

>>From: Kenny Young <ufo.nul>
>>To: ufoupdates.nul
>>Date: Sat, 20 Mar 2004 11:57:14 -0500
>>Subject: Re: Jerry Black To Polygraph Bruce Maccabee
>>>From: Jerome Clark <jkclark.nul>
>>>To: <ufoupdates.nul>
>>>Date: Fri, 19 Mar 2004 13:18:24 -0600
>>>Subject: Re: Jerry Black To Polygraph Bruce Maccabee
>>>I have a suggestion. If Bruce Maccabee takes a polygraph test,
>>>Jerry Black agrees to take a psychiatric test.
>>Who was it that had something to say about attacking the
>>messenger, not the data....? Why is there such a perception
>>that this cute little quote applies only one way?
>I don't think you and Black are standing on exactly solid ground
>when you write about "attacking the messenger, not the data,"
>when you've made Bruce Maccabee, not his data, the issue. And in
>any case, you guys have no "data", just a bunch of hearsay for
>which no confirming evidence exists.
>You guys beggar belief in your hypocrisy, self-righteousness,
>vindictiveness, and personality-obsessed 'research'. From his
>vantage point somewhere in hell, though, I'm sure Joe McCarthy
>is smiling at you.

Jerry C, Kenny and All,

Bruce has taken the only course of action that makes sense.
Innocent folks shouldn't be apprehensive about taking a
polygraph or voice stress analysis. These tests are very
accurate. Just ask Richard Jewell! I happen to think Bruce's
interpretation of the Gulf Breeze photos is correct and Ed W is
not a fraud and is being truthful. But Bruce's polygraph will go
a long way toward settling this issue. I have a police officer
friend who swears by the polygraph. Where I live, all police
officers and sheriffs must pass polygraphs before being hired.
If it's good enough for the FBI, CIA, Navy intelligence, and
most local police agencies, then it should be good enough for
UFO investigators.

I wouldn't think of doing a serious interview without having it
analyzed by VSA. We need to use the meager tools that are
available to us and VSA and polygraph can be easily utilized.
Anyone who refuses a polygraph or VSA is suspect, to my way of

Below is an example of how a polygraph can play a major role in
an investigation and how the report is structured and what Bruce
or anyone can expect.



From "The Bombing of Judi Bari, New Evidence"


The Peace and Freedom Party attempted to expel Sutley, using
Bari's "police-agent" accusations. Many folks on the left were
sympathetic to Bari's version of events and some came to believe
that Sutley was a government agent. This made his life
unnerving, and he became really worried about his reputation,
credibility and safety. Jan Tucker, a friend of Sutley's who
also happened to be a long time Peace and Freedom Party member
and a licensed private investigator, advised Sutley to take a
polygraph test. Tucker indicated that this would settle the
matter once and for all. Tucker made all the arrangements for
Sutley, who traveled to Los Angeles on December 14, 1994, and
took the examination at Guga & Associates.

Joseph Paolella, a licensed polygraph examiner, administered the
test. In his letter to Tucker informing him of the results,
Paolella gives the following information: "At your request Irv
Sutley was given a polygraph examination on 12/14/94 to
determine whether he had in fact been an informant against Earth
First! or Judi Bari, and whether he was involved in the bombing
of her car and whether he was solicited by Pam Davis to kill
Mike Sweeney."

Paolella goes on to explain his pre-testing of Sutley, what
tests were used and the type of equipment that was employed
and other dynamics of the whole procedure. After Sutley was
prepared, Mr. Paolella asked four questions.

1. Did you receive any payment from law enforcement agencies to
be an informant against Earth First! or Judi Bari? (Sutley's
response was "no.")

2. Were you solicited by Pam Davis to kill Bari's estranged
husband, Mike Sweeney? (Sutley's response was "yes.")

3. Did you write the "Argus" letter to the Ukiah police
epartment in 1989 or 1990? (Sutley's response was "no.")

4. Were you involved in any way with the bombing of Bari's ar on
5-24-90? (Sutley's response was "no.")

"After carefully reviewing the polygraph charts, it is the
opinion of the examiner that the subject told the truth during
the polygraph examination. Respectfully Submitted, Joseph


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