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Re: Phoenix Lights - Man Made Hoax Devices? - Boone

From: Greg Boone <Evolbaby.nul>
Date: Fri, 19 Mar 2004 15:44:54 EST
Fwd Date: Sat, 20 Mar 2004 08:04:14 -0500
Subject: Re: Phoenix Lights - Man Made Hoax Devices? - Boone

>From: Bruce Maccabee <brumac.nul>
>To: <ufoupdates.nul>
>Date: Fri, 19 Mar 2004 11:31:40 -0500
>Subject: Re: Phoenix Lights - Man Made Hoax Devices?

>>From: Barry Taylor <stingray.nul>
>>To: <ufoupdates.nul>
>>Date: Fri, 19 Mar 2004 18:21:04 +1100
>>Subject: Phoenix Lights - Man Made Hoax Devices?

>>I have just uploaded an article on my UFO web site titled...
>>"Phoenix Lights - Man Made Hoax Devices?"


>>I think you will find it an interesting read.

>I read it and found it an interesting read. I commend you for
>your combined experimental and analytical approach. However, I
>do not agree with it... at least as applied to the famous
>Phoenix Lights footage.

>I also wonder about the accuracy of some of your suggestions as
>to how to make and ignite gas bag balloons. Since I have never
>made one myself I would have to say that _some_ of what you have
>proposed for creating a balloon, such as the "time delayed
>method" (so no one sees a light as the balloon rises to its
>buoyant level, seems unlikely to me.

>But, to return to the Phoenix lights themselves, as one can
>learn from my web page, careful analysis of the video shows that
>the lights *did* move downward and _did_ move slowly sideways
>(to the left) and the triangulations showed they were many tens
>of miles away (60-80). You suggest that they were close because
>they were over Phoenix and bright enough to be videotaped.
>Perhaps you don't realize that even if they had been over the
>city of Phoenix they would have been 5-10 miles from one of the
>videotapers (Krzysten) and perhaps 30 =D8=F8 miles from another
>(Rairdon), yet the images appear equally bright in the videos.

>I don't believe the lights were hoax devices but nevertheless
>they would have some characteristics common to the hoax balloons
>you suggest, if they were, as I suggest (and others before me)
>that they were distant parahute borne bright military flares.

Nice site Mr. Taylor! Thanks. We need more of that.

I have to agree with Dr. Maccabee and can only add a layman's

Considering the decades old nonsense we all have gotten when
looking into UFO accounts from the authorities we pay, as far as
I'm concerned their 'official' positions are noted but put into
the file marked 'S' for 'Staged'.

In regard to the Phoenix lights incident it has for me shown the
importance of 'witness' testimony now stronger than ever.

If you recall those 'Roswell' disclosures from the Air Force
during the 90's they were chock full of wonderful notes except
interviewing the living credible witnesses! How do you engage in
an investigation and not ask somebody who was there?

Oh yes, I remember, 'Time Compression'. 

Where'd that term come from anyway?

What amazes me about the Phoenix Lights is that many of us were
live on the air and online at the time. We got live information
from our fans who were in Phoenix when it was happening! Not
only that but we got live accounts from various areas of Phoenix
and surrounding areas. Info from a myriad of peoples and
occupations and viewpoints. That's data a fella can chaw on for
a spell.

For me, this isn't a mystery it's an event that relies on the
old fashioned way of credible extrapolation:

Asking your neighbors.

Hopefully someone will brave the storm and get everyone who was
there that night to write up what they saw and experienced and
put it all together.

Can't beat that in a court of law :)



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