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Re: 'The Mythologist' AKA Armen Victorian/Henry

From: Bruce Maccabee <brumac.nul>
Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2004 17:55:02 -0500
Fwd Date: Fri, 19 Mar 2004 10:12:10 -0500
Subject: Re: 'The Mythologist' AKA Armen Victorian/Henry

>From: Joe McGonagle <joe.mcgonagle.nul>
>To: ufoupdates.nul
>Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2004 1:38:15 +0000
>Subject: 'The Mythologist' AKA Armen Victorian/Henry Azadehdel

>John Lundberg emailed me to say that "The Mythologist", a
>documentary film which he directed about Henry Azadehdel aka
>Armen Victorian will be broadcast in the UK on BBC4 at 10:40pm
>next Thursday 25th March. This should be a fascinating
>programme, If you have the opportunity to see it then don't pass
>it up!

>More details, including short clips from the film and details of
>some of the people that appear on it or were involved in it's
>production can be found at:


Henry! What a guy!

I nailed him the first time he called me. I think he probably
called me a second time, but I'm not sure. I think he called
more than once or twice because I dd not offer him any
particular help or information.

I can't recall everything we discussed the first (only?) time he
called. It was back in the latter half of the 80's, but I don't
recall what year. (1987, 1988?) I was impressed because he was
calling all the way from England and wanted to talk about UFOs
and abductions. Obviously he wanted to know what I knew about
it. We probably talked about government cover up and so on
(documents from CIA, FBI, AF intel and perhaps MJ-12) but I
can't be certain of this. After all, it was 15 or more years ago
He talked a good line about his experiences in the field of UFO
research, etc. He portrayed himself as a "fellow traveler" in
the field of UFO investigation. (This was before he became a
"known entity" as Armen Victorian ).

But then he slipped up. We were talking about abduction research,
I believe he said he basically agreed with Budd. I was interested
as to how he would know whether Budd was correct or not and Henry
referred to his own extensive research with abductees.

I asked him how many he had worked with.

I expected him to say that he had worked with a few abductees,
probably using hypnosis. What he did say caught me by surprise
and is the reason I still remember it: "I've worked with 700

I was startled. This seemed like an impossibly huge number and
yet, no one (that I knew) had ever heard of him.

Keeping a cool voice I responded something like this: "Is that
so? And where were these abductees?"

"Some in England but mostly in India."

After he hung up I was left with the impression that for some
reason I didn't know, he was probably was a fake. I thought that
perhaps he was trying to impress me with his knowledge.

How did I know the guy was blowing smoke? Because I was well
aware of the state of abduction research. I knew from the work
of Eddie Bullard that there were only a couple hundred known
abductee cases (Bullard's catalogue listed, I think, 300 cases
known worldwide in the middle '80's, most of which had not been
thoroughly investgated). I knew how much time investigators like
Budd Hopkins and Dave Jacobs, had spent with individual

I knew that investigations sometimes took years, I concluded
that no one could have thoroughly researched 700 cases even if
they were all in one place.

Ever since then I have treated information from "Victorian" or
Azedehdel with a grain of salt, unless it was backed up by other
sources of information.

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