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Re: UFO Magazine Folds After Editor's Death - Hale

From: Roy Hale <roy.nul>
Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2004 05:58:33 -0000
Fwd Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2004 10:54:51 -0500
Subject: Re: UFO Magazine Folds After Editor's Death - Hale


>From: Joe McGonagle <joe.mcgonagle.nul>
>To: <ufoupdates.nul>
>Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2004 09:57:52 -0000
>Subject: Re: UFO Magazine Folds After Editor's Death

>Roy stood on one leg, and repeated that amazing gymnastic
>ventriloquist trick which he is so adept at:

>Placing an entire foot in his mouth almost up to the knee-joint
>whilst speaking from a different part of his anatomy he said...

Hi,

I see you lost the argument on this one, insulting me does not
do you any favours, you are obviously well trained in the
'insult' tactic used by many people who wish to cover up their
embarassment of talking utter BS!

>I haven't stated an opinion, I stated a fact. If you are
>bringing opinions into the discussion they must therefore be
>your own. The fact that I stated (for at least the third time)
>is:

>"On the odd occasion when a magazine presents an article as
>research, the so-called research does not always stand up to
>scrutiny."

>If it were an opinion, the only counter-opinion could be that :

>"On the odd occasion when a magazine presents an article as
>research, the so-called research does always stand up to
>scrutiny."

>So, is that your opinion, or do you agree with my fact?

More gobbledegook, I don't agree with any aspect of your
argument, your facts are for you and your own mind.

>I know what your problem is - something does sound like a joke
>at:

>http://www.virtuallystrange.net/ufo/updates/2003/nov/m13-005.shtml

>and it isn't FSR. You don't like to acknowledge that you made a
>fool of yourself, so you are trying to make it appear that my
>remarks were deriding FSR. Go on, admit it!

No, you simply do not like being pulled up about the foot in
mouth rant, when you said "I mean the really unexplained and
thoroughly investigated ones, not just stories that you read in
FSR/UFO magazine/Junior Sc-fi weekly" Still you seem to find it
very hard to acknowledege you made FSR sound like a wacky Sci Fi
magazine!

>I've already made it abundantly clear that no change of position
>in regard to FSR was made by me during the period in question.
>If you check the archives, you will see that I have been
>actively trying to engender support for FSR since at least 6th
>August 2003, see:

>http://www.virtuallystrange.net/ufo/updates/2003/aug/m06-011.shtml

So how can you tell us you support FSR on one hand, then come
and spurt nonsense like the above?

>Firstly, a true sceptic will consider all of the evidence, not
>just what suits their pre-conceived ideas (unlike some people).

Yes, that is why you have the belief that ET does not have
anything to do with UFO sightings.

>Secondly, since when did I ask you to choose my reading
>material? Are you saying that only "true believers" are allowed
>to see the "cosmic secrets" contained within FSR? If so, that is
>a very elitist and discriminatory attitude that you have.

Oh, "elitsit and discriminatory"? Now who is acting this way,
see:

http://www.virtuallystrange.net/ufo/updates/2003/nov/m29-013.shtml

>Thirdly, not all of the content is as you presume, perhaps you
>only read the parts that are "Pro Humanoid Contact" because that
>fits your preconceptions and they make you feel nice and warm
>inside?

>Probably not, there are a few other strange people on the list
>who would have trouble acknowledging what I wrote as fact, since
>it would destroy their "I'm more open-minded than you" stance..

You have a habit of this, perhaps you should be retrained along
the way?

>I'm sorry Roy, you are definitely beyond any help that I could
>offer you.

Thank god for that!


Roy




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