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Re: Tracing the Flow of the Gulf Breeze Money -

From: Robert Gates <RGates8254.nul>
Date: Tue, 16 Mar 2004 20:11:17 -0500
Fwd Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2004 12:07:28 -0500
Subject: Re: Tracing the Flow of the Gulf Breeze Money -

>From: Jerry Black <gulfbreezeinfo.nul>
>To: UFO Updates <ufoupdates.nul>
>Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2004 20:11:47 -0800 (PST)
>Subject: Re: Tracing the Flow of the Gulf Breeze Money

>Mr. Robert Gates

>Your observation over the last several years, is that Rex
>Salisberry had his own biases and an agenda. Those biases and
>agenda, according to you, are that the Gulf Breeze sighting is a


Please take a deep breath. Before you proceed, you may also want
to read my upcoming post sent yesterday, which may be on updates

As the saying goes I have no dog in the Gulf Breeze hunt.
Regardless of what anybody believes or disbelieves about Gulf
Breeze that fact remains that you make a rather serious
allegation that money exchanged hands in 1988 from Ed Walters to
MUFON to Bruce Maccabee.

From what you have said, apparently you have concluded that
only way a person could conclude that Ed Walters/Gulf Breeze was
real was through some sizeable bundle of cash. In essence your
position is somehow, someway Ed Walters passed some bundle of
cash (you have refined your position a bit when you mentioned
1988 as the year it happened in todays other email) to a UFO
organization who gave it to Bruce Maccabee to conclude that Ed
Walters case was real.

You maintain that the only so called scientific investigator to
the Ed Walters case was Rex which I find interesting. It would
be like saying the only scientific investigator in the Travis
Walton case was James Harder, or the only scientific
investigator in the Roswell Case was Kevin Randle. Yet we all
know that many of the high profile cases have many investigators
which come to totally different and opposite conclusions...
looking at the same evidence, based upon their
opinion/read/interpretation of the evidence.

I recall you first maintained that FUFOR was involved till Dick
Hall demolished that theory on this List and you back-peddled.
Then it changed to MUFON, and today you state in your email to
Bruce Maccabee the phrase 'in my opinion'.

Since you make these allegations its more then reasonable to
expect you to provide us some hard basis for those allegations
such as copies of checks and or audio/video recordings in which
Ed/MUFON/Walt discussing the checks and money flowing back and
forth. We haven't seen any hard evidence yet, just opinions and
people connecting the dots, much like Phil Klass connected the
dots that the Travis Walton case was a hoax. By the way awhile
back the latest theory from the skeptical tank about Travis
Walton goes along the lines of 'Lie detector test aside, we know
he hoaxed it, we just can't prove it, but someday, somehow the
evidence will show up....' Then the other theory goes along the
lines of 'the only lie detector test that counted was the first
one, not the newer one...'

I also notice that Rex/Vickie/others have thus far shown little
interest in publicly going on record and confirming any
allegations to this point. Perhaps they will on this list.

Instead of continuing to make allegations, please present copies
of your evidence, or at least tell us if you have any other
basis for making the claims you do i.e. "Rex said" "Vickie said"
or somebody else said...keeping in mind thats about as reliable
as Katrina's claiming that Vickie said that words were put in
her mouth. Which reminds me. I wasn't at Gulf Breeze when this
allegedly happened but you recently said that Rex Salisberry
claimed that he heard the money story off the lips of Ed Walters
and that was to be believed, yet when Ed Walters said he shot
pictures of a UFO we are not to believe it because he supposedly
hoaxed it. So if you and Rex really and truly believe that
story, are we to conclude that you or him only believe Ed
Walters when he is supposedly telling a story that you like? By
the way do you have audio tape of that exchange? Just a thought.

You maintain its going to take you a couple of months to do so,
which suggests that you don't currently have any and you are
sincerely hoping that something will turn up. When you have the
evidence I and others will be listening, if not we have a 'jewel
encrusted helmet' story.



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