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Re: UFO Spies Vanish Into Black Hole - Kaeser

From: Steven Kaeser <steve.nul>
Date: Tue, 16 Mar 2004 11:28:58 -0500
Fwd Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2004 03:15:09 -0500
Subject: Re: UFO Spies Vanish Into Black Hole - Kaeser

>From: Wendy Connors <fadeddiscs.nul>
>To: UFO UpDates <ufoupdates.nul>
>Date: Tue, 16 Mar 2004 06:58:25 -0700
>Subject: Re: UFO Spies Vanish Into Black Hole


>I have to agree with Jerry Clark. Ufology is far from dead or
>even passe. Roberts, as usual, must be taking one of his
>trips... and I'm not talking Club Med.

>Let's see. During this lull in major activity, the following is
>taking place while Roberts flits around like the tooth fairy:

>1. Richard Hall is producing a major analysis of the 1966-67

>2. Jerry Clark is producing a major work on pre-1947 material...
>which hasn't been tapped before.

>3. Carl Fiendt is producing major work on underwater UFOs...
>neglected for decades, I might add.

>4. Vincente-Juan Olmos is cataloguing the photographic
>evidence... much needed and has been for decades.

>5. Jan Aldrich is compiling radar/UFO material from new

>6. Loren Gross has completed his 30 year trek of UFO history in
>his wonderful and very important booklet series from the Ghost
>Rockets to 1959.

>7. Frank Warren is hard at work digging up every scrap
>detailing the Maury Island incident.

>8. Francis Ridge is ensuring that the NICAP material is on-line
>for the benefit of all... and that's a huge job, but a great

>9. Dominic Weinstein is hard at work updating his Pilot/Radar

>10. Larry Hatch is still hard at work making the UFO database
>something everyone can be proud.

>11. Ann Druffel just gave us a major insight into Dr. James E.

>Well, the list of projects continuing in Ufology is enormous and
>world-wide. Ufology is far from dead. It's losing many of it's
>fanatics, dingbats, do-do's, conspiracy nuts, etc., which is a
>good thing, but they'll pop up in force when the next major wave
>or event takes place.

>What Ufology needs to lose is the Andy Roberts, who haven't a
>clue as to what the hell they are talking about.


For all of the projects you've mentioned, who is the target
audiance and where will that information eventually end up?
While I would not agree with Andy completely, he makes a point.
I don't think the field is "dead", but how the field is defined
has been vastly changed by the Internet and the media. How
ufology is viewed by the general public (not the subset of those
that are involved in research) is far different than it was
during the last half of of the 20th Century, and even during
that time period the public's view evolved. Richard Hall's UFO
Evidence II is a tremendous collection of information, updating
one of the classic NICAP publications, but it hasn't really made
any difference among those who aren't already involved in the
field. Libraries didn't race out to purchase it, and I would
suspect that sales have levelled off at this point.

IMO, ufology is far from a scientific pursuit at this point, and
while there are those within the field doing good work, it
largely goes unnoticed by all but the hard-core among us.

I would also suggest that we are not seeing any reduction in the
number of "fanatics, dingbats, do-do's, conspiracy nuts, etc."
on the Internet and at sponsored symposiums. It pains me to see
some of the good researchers in the field jumping at the
opportunity to appear on the same venue as those that define the
"fringe" in ufology, but they seem to be addicted to the
limelight and don't really understand that they become defined
in part by those they appear with.

The loss of UFO Magazine UK as a resource may have been
inevitable due to loss of subscriptions and rising costs. UFO
publications in the US also have problems, IMO, and unless there
is an event that sparks the interest of the general public, then
I suspect the number of (what I would define as scientifically
oriented) UFO researchers will dwindle over time. Should that
occur, the field will fragment further and who can guess as to
what it will look like in 15 or 20 years.

Just a few thoughts.


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