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Re: UFOs & Fairies? - Aubeck

From: chris aubeck <caubeck.nul>
Date: Mon, 8 Mar 2004 11:59:59 +0000 (GMT)
Fwd Date: Mon, 08 Mar 2004 19:44:27 -0500
Subject: Re: UFOs & Fairies? - Aubeck

>From: David Rudiak <DRudiak.nul>
>To: <ufoupdates.nul>
>Date: Sat, 6 Mar 2004 10:32:01 -0800
>Subject: Re: UFOs & Fairies?

>>From: Chris Aubeck <caubeck.nul>
>>To: ufoupdates.nul
>>Date: Fri, 5 Mar 2004 21:30:35 +0000 (GMT)
>>Subject: Re: UFOs & Fairies? - Aubeck

>>>From: Tom Benson <sparkle.nul>
>>>To: <ufoupdates.nul>
>>>Date: Sun, 29 Feb 2004 12:06:05 -0500
>>>Subject: Re: UFOs & Fairies? - Benson

>>>>From: David Rudiak <DRudiak.nul>
>>>>To: <ufoupdates.nul>
>>>>Date: Sat, 28 Feb 2004 19:26:23 -0800
>>>>Subject: Re: UFOs & Fairies?

>>>>UFOs & Fairies? (& Little Green Men)

>>>>A side-bar on the possible connections between
>>>>fairies and aliens concerns the the origins of
>>>>the term "Little Green Men."



>Super post! I think you are dead on that "Little
>Green Men" was probably in the vernacular for a very
>long time, first being applied to creatures like
>fairies, and then naturally attaching itself to
>aliens. It was certainly deeply inbedded as a
>sarcastic anti-UFO term early in the 1950's.


>The comics and comic strips of the 1930's and 1940's
>were certainly full of green aliens, but
>whether "Little Green Men" in an alien context was
>commonly used to reference them pre- or post-Arnold
>is still not nailed down.

> David Rudiak

Hi David,

A search for the earliest ever use of the term "Little Green
Men" in an alien context would probably not come up with very
satisfying results. Although it is true that little green men
sometimes featured in early science fiction, the expression
itself was not directly transferred from there to ufology.
Rather, the term became automatically associated with aliens
only when flying saucers were, and this happened gradually, not

Fiction, supposed witnesses, and scientific speculation before
1900 usually spoke of giant extraterrestrials, not dwarves.
There are plenty of exceptions, but it was quite typical to
claim that extraterrestrials were around 12 feet high - that is,
twice the height of the tallest man anyone was likely to meet in
the street.

Unlike "flying saucer," which was thrust on the world by the
press in 1947 as a term to describe mysterious flying objects,
"little green man" was a common, age-old idiomatic expression,
comparable to "seeing pink elephants," yet with a basis in
folklore that was still alive in literature and some rural

So, the question "Was the expression used in an alien context
before 1947?" is best answered "no, it was used to describe all
sorts of supernatural beings and became associated with Martians
only after 'flying saucers' did."

Best wishes,


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