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Re: Depressing But Instructive - Harney

From: John Harney <magonia.nul>
Date: Fri, 5 Mar 2004 21:34:36 -0000
Fwd Date: Fri, 05 Mar 2004 22:10:38 -0500
Subject: Re: Depressing But Instructive - Harney

>From: Richard Hall <hallrichard99.nul>
>To: ufoupdates.nul
>Date: Thu, 04 Mar 2004 11:14:03 +0000
>Subject: UFO History: Depressing But Instructive

>Newly added to my web site is a (prophetic) statement presented
>to the University of Colorado UFO Project scientists and staff
>as they embarked on what was touted to be an independent
>scientific study of UFOs. This occurred in November 1966,
>probably before many of you on this List were born, or out of
>swaddling clothes. (It even seems like a past-life experience to


You conclude your submission to the Colorado Project by saying "
. . . the lowest common denominator of what is necessary in UFO
investigations is a close study of the best unexplained cases in
isolation, at least temporarily, from the Total Phenomenon."

However, whenever attention is drawn on this List to intensive
investigations, or critical examination of the evidence in
unexplained cases, usually leading what are probably the correct
explanations, such postings are greeted with howls of rage from
believers in the ETH. Your suggested method is certainly applied
by a few ufologists, but is certainly not popular as it is
unlikely to tell most people what they want to hear.

>On the UFO Page of my web site you will also find other articles
>and essays by me on issues of science and UFOs and ideas of how
>to break the deadlock and make some progress. Study the past and
>learn from history. See:


On your UFO Page you deal with the story of the alleged killing
of an ET at Fort Dix/McGuire AFB. The dead ET was said to have
been hauled off to Wright-Patterson AFB (where else?).

You consider this preposterous story to be authentic, despite
the fact that it has - unlike Trindade, as Jerry Clark kept
reminding us - _negative witnesses_. Yet you just sweep these
negative witnesses aside with the words: "The fact that several
of the officers involved have denied to other investigators
having any knowledge of the incident is not surprising at all
under the circumstances."

Perhaps it's not surprising because the incident never happened.
This appears to be the conclusion reached by the National
Institute of Discovery Science. I quote from the Discussion
section of their investigations of this case, which is available


"The central thesis arising from this preliminary investigation
is that no corroboration was obtained for the reality of the
alleged incident at McGuire AFB on January 18, 1978. Until and
unless independent corroboration can be obtained, NIDS policy
does not permit conducting a full investigation into this


"NIDS is open to receiving further corroborative evidence that
supports the reality of the 1978 McGuire AFB incident, but based
on the principle of parsimony, the current hypothesis from this
preliminary investigation is that the case is a hoax."

John Harney

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