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Re: JPL/NASA's Ho Hum Conference - Fleming

From: Lan Fleming <lfleming6.nul>
Date: Fri, 05 Mar 2004 07:41:31 -0600
Fwd Date: Fri, 05 Mar 2004 10:00:18 -0500
Subject: Re: JPL/NASA's Ho Hum Conference - Fleming

>From: Paul Anderson <paulanderson.nul>
>To: ufoupdates.nul
>Date: Thu, 4 Mar 2004 12:06:49 -0800
>Subject: Re: JPL/NASA's Ho Hum Conference

>>From: Lan Fleming <lfleming6.nul>
>>To: <ufoupdates.nul>
>>Date: Wed, 03 Mar 2004 12:35:19 -0600
>>Subject: Re: JPL/NASA's Ho Hum Conference

>>Here is the evidence they're "hiding," but they're hiding it in
>>full view:


>>They're not actually hiding it, of course. They're just ignoring
>>it or dismissing it with lame off-the-cuff explanations when
>>someone has the bad manners to point out to them that these
>>things are in their rover images. JPL doesn't actually need to
>>hide evidence when it's much easier for them to just spin it

>Thanks for the link Lan, appreciate it. Just so the List knows,
>I started this side-project if you will (apart from my crop
>circle studies/CCCRN), as space exploration, planetary missions
>in particular, has been a life-long passion of mine, long before
>I ever heard of flattened wheat(!). I've been following these
>new MER missions with much interest. I may expand this later but
>for now at least a chronology of highlights, linked to my
>personal web site, including some of the more interesting

Yes, now I see what sort of mischief you get into when crop
circles are out of season. :)

>And personally I am excited about the water discovery; yes we
>had good evidence before this for liquid water in the past, but
>now we have the direct on-the-spot proof, for water in large
>amounts and long- lasting, that's the key difference. Whether
>that was from hydrothermal sources or a standing salty lake or
>sea remains to be seen, but is exciting either way.

The evidence presented was certainly important, but hardly

I would have been a lot happier with the press conference had
Dr. Squyres not responded to the single question asked about
evidence for present-day liquid water at the rover sites by
asserting that it's "too brutally cold" on Mars to consider that

That statement was not simply an expression of scientific
conservatism; it showed a wreckless disregard for the facts.

The temperature does get above the freezing point on Mars, and
the presence of salts can keep water in the liquid state well
below the freezing point of pure water.

After hearing them talk about the high salt concentrations, I'd
have expected one of these experts would have made the
connection, however tentatively, between the salts and the "mud-
like" material found at the rover site.

Trying to find the appropriate connections between observations
is basically what science is about.

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