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Re: Cartnic Effect - LeClair

From: Aaron LeClair <force.nul>
Date: Thu, 4 Mar 2004 00:22:48 -0500
Fwd Date: Thu, 04 Mar 2004 08:51:03 -0500
Subject: Re: Cartnic Effect - LeClair

>From: Wendy Connors <fadeddiscs.nul>
>To: UFO UpDates <UFOUpdates.nul>
>Date: Wed, 3 Mar 2004 10:16:07 -0700
>Subject: Re: Cartnic Effect

>>From: Barry Taylor <stingray.nul>
>>To: <ufoupdates.nul>
>>Date: Wed, 3 Mar 2004 11:13:24 +1100
>>Subject: Cartnic Effect

>>Proposal for new terminology to be used for descriptive
>>purposes when describing "the flight characteristics of the
>>flight and direction change of groups of UFOs".

>>While observing numerous UFO activity during the 1990's, there
>>was one important observation that still intrigues me. This is
>>the observation of groups of UFO (usually surrounded with a
>>white haze) that during their flight appeared to be moving as if
>>with the "same mind".


>>I am at this point in time, unaware of a specific terminology
>>that accurately describes the effect observed of birds and fish
>>moving as if with the "same mind". This same effect is
>>associated with the flight of groups of UFO's.

>>I propose that this effect of "group awareness of the same
>>mind" be called the "CARTNIC EFFECT".

>>Preservation and reduced energy requirements of the individual
>>when flying in group formation is another possibility.
>>Scientists state that migrating birds when flying in "V"
>>formation conserve 71% of their energy during their migration
>>flight. This could well also apply to the UFO. An "exchange" of
>>energy in UFO groups is another theory I am working on, and may
>>post that later.

>I would be real careful proposing new terminology. Before long,
>others will be doing it and before you can whack a wallabee,
>your ilk is defining a new science. I agree with your
>terminology. It is clear and concise, thus enhancing the mental
>image to the proposed term.

>Now, if if you could get people to accept CryptoAeronautics
>(Manufactured Aerial Objects of Unknown Origin), to replace UFO,
>you might have a shot at forcing the evolution of Ufology into a
>true science. Which Ufology was always meant to become, even
>though it kept getting side-tracked, into a parody of what it
>actually encompasses.

>So, be very careful to whom you give these ridiculous
>ideas... don't want to rock the status quo, or commit the sin
>of creating actual teaching terminologies!

>But, then again, why not?

I wish UFO meant, undetermined object. I have had several
sightings of "objects" that I could not determine what they
were. I had several different explainations for it, just didn't
know for sure which one was correct.

Flying saucer/alien craft is one possibilty.

I recall hearing Don Berliner say somthhing like:

'Since when is identifying somthing as unidentified, an
identification? Science is suppose to give us identifications

I think ufo came to be a term because the airforce did not want
to identify the flying objects with the only conceivable
identification left. Alien craft. They were being conservative,
not calling alot of the "unknowns" flying saucer for example.

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