From: Aaron LeClair <force.nul> Date: Tue, 2 Mar 2004 20:28:54 -0500 Fwd Date: Wed, 03 Mar 2004 09:08:18 -0500 Subject: Re: Tracing The Flow Of The Gulf Breeze Money - >From: Bruce Maccabee <brumac.nul> >To: <ufoupdates.nul> >Date: Tue, 2 Mar 2004 10:44:45 -0500 >Subject: Re: Tracing The Flow Of The Gulf Breeze Money <snip> I find the sept 8th 8:09 pm 1991 video of a "Bubba"-like object taken in Gulf Breeze interesting. There is a lot of people that can be heard on the tape. One person sounds like Ed W. himself, though I do not know this for a fact. I mention it, to see if anyone on the list knows wether or not he was present during this event. There are loads more videos and pics that I find baffling. Like the live news team capture of a ufo etc. The video can be seen at: http://www.ufotheatre.com last I checked. Nearly everyone on the List has seen it no doubt, but just in case you haven't, or for the archive readers, you can check the Bubba vid out there, or I can send you the vid as an attachment (if you are a Lister). The file is quite large tho'. Now, on to Ed's pics and vids. I am not convinced either way about Ed. I think there is evidence that points in both directions. I would indeed be interested in any links or refereces anyone has of any debunking attempts that show a double exposure with the same (or similar camera) that can reach the same results as the following pics found in Ufo abductions in Gulf Breeze: (all photos mentioned are found in same book) Photo 1. Where The Object is partly covered by a tree. Photo 19 Road shot. Photo Photo 11 Where the object has a beam of light coming out of the bottom. Also, I would like to know of any explainations of the daytime vid of "Bubba" from Ed, through his work window which casts a shadow. I'm aware of the double exposure attempt at demonstrating how one could hoax Ed's pics found in the book "Ufo Abductions Gulf Breeze". However, the debunker's attempt does'nt address the issues in the above mentioned photos above. As a side note: I read through Kenny's interview with Jerry Black: http://home.fuse.net/ufo/JBLACK.html I see lots of speculation and opinions that JB draws his conclusions from, in turn they have no provable bases in fact. He also sets up speculations, in which is hard to disprove. I can give more details if people are interested. As I read, I wondered if it occured to him, the fact that Ed is paying lots of money for analysis, might as easily be said to add credence to his case, just as much credence as he (JB) is suggesting in making reference to Bruce and MUFON being bought. Not his exact words maybe, but you can read and see if you agree with my paraphrasing http://home.fuse.net/ufo/JBLACK.html What hoaxer spends loads of money on a variety of analysis? Miere? Adamski? To my knowledge this would be a rarity. Rarity doesn't prove it can't be, however, I have trouble concluding that Bruce and MUFON have been bought when one derives that conclusion, on the sole bases that money changed hands. Granted, JB's take is as good as the one I mentioned, but I felt it needed to be thrown out on the table. Readers who aren't familiar with Hyzer's explanations may see: http://www.skiesare.demon.co.uk/b-or-b.htm If anyone knows a better source, please post, or send to me. Thanks. If I have the time, I will give some of my thoughts on to Hyzer's conclusions. Tho, as Bruce said, it probably won't change anyone's mind. Might be nice to have in the archives though, so we'll see.
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