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Re: Magazine UK - Miller

From: Stuart Miller <Stuart.Miller4.nul>
Date: Tue, 24 Feb 2004 10:25:34 -0000
Fwd Date: Tue, 24 Feb 2004 18:14:55 -0500
Subject: Re: Magazine UK - Miller 

>From: Ray Stanford <dinotracker.nul>
>To: <ufoupdates.nul>
>Date: Sun, 22 Feb 2004 20:00:40 -0500
>Subject: Re: Magazine UK

>>From: Stuart Miller <Stuart.Miller4.nul>
>>To: <ufoupdates.nul>
>>Date: Sun, 22 Feb 2004 16:52:49 -0000
>>Subject: UFO Magazine UK

>>>From: Ray Stanford <dinotracker.nul>
>>>To: <ufoupdates.nul>
>>>Date: Sat, 21 Feb 2004 12:19:57 -0500
>>>Subject: Re: BLURFOs


>Speaking of UK phenomenologists whose work UFO Magazine has
>promoted, I wouldn't brag if I were you. Concerning one whose
>work the magazine has championed, Colin Andrews.: During the
>heyday of crop circles (before the fakers got them so complex,
>embroidered, and convoluted as to be credible only to the highly
>credulous), I telephoned Colin and left a message on his
>telephone offering to bring our project's whole array of cameras
>and instruments like the recording gravimeter and recording
>magnetometers and cameras over there to see what might be
>monitored. I said I might, in fact, just lone him instruments,
>shipping them to him, should that be of interest.

>Do you think Colin responded? Of course not, he preferred to
>have dowsers out in the fields with him! LMAO!

This is unbelievably rude of him and as a representative of a
publication that has employed Colin in the past, we would like
to accept full responsibility for his rudeness. We would also
like to accept full responsibility for World War II, for the
appalling punctuality of Virgin trains on the UK west coast
line, and for the Simpsons, which is often blasphemous.

>Concerning crop patterns, your magazine acts even worse, if
>that's possible. In your Volume 24, number 1, page 27,
>describing two highly dubious crop 'messages', as (and I quote):

"Ding". That is the first chime of an alarm bell going off in my
head. We do not number our magazine like that, unless you are
referring to a very old copy. In which case Ray, I wish to take
you to task for that very rude word you uttered 55 years ago to
that dear lady in the ice cream parlor when you were a young
child. How could you?

Are you sure you've got the right magazine?

>Guidance?!! How ridiculous. I have had some, IMO, possibly
>credible reports from British UFOlogers complaining about how
>Graham allegedly tried to put down anything in British UFOlogy
>that did not please him and his publishing effort. Hearsay, it's
>true, but baseless? I wonder whether there might have been some
>fire with the smoke.

People submit articles. They are not published for one reason or
another. Result? One grumpy writer who looks for an explanation
other than the fact that possibly the piece he submitted wasn't
up to standard.

>In a private letter to me (yesterday, February 21, 2004) you said:

I did not send you a private "letter" on the 21st. What I did do
was to send to you directly, as a curtesy, a copy of a reply to
your message on this List. I did this because I knew that my
reply would take something like ten to fifteen hours maybe to
appear on this List and I didn't want you to have to wait that
long to get a reply.

However, I did send you a private message yesterday, as I
promised I would in my reply. In it I asked if you would be good
enough to supply us with the date of the publication of the
particular issue that you allege contains the breach of
copyright. I have not had a reply to that yet and would
appreciate one please.

We cannot move forward here until you do this.

Stuart Miller

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