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Re: Off-Season UFOs - Pope

From: Nick Pope <nick.nul>
Date: Mon, 16 Feb 2004 18:56:03 -0000
Fwd Date: Mon, 16 Feb 2004 14:57:35 -0500
Subject: Re: Off-Season UFOs - Pope

>From: Amy Hebert <vanguard.nul>
>To: <ufoupdates.nul>
>Date: Sun, 15 Feb 2004 17:19:27 -0600
>Subject: Re: Off-Season UFOs

>>From: Nick Pope <nick.nul>
>>To: <ufoupdates.nul>
>>Date: Sun, 15 Feb 2004 11:10:46 -0000
>>Subject: Re: Off-Season UFOs

>>When running the UK Government's UFO project I asked a member of
>>staff to do a study into the geographical spread of sightings. I
>>gave her some outline maps of the UK and asked her to go through
>>the files for the last three years, marking the locations. Here
>>are some of the issues that arose:


>I'm wondering how the information yielded from your study could be
>turned around and used to disguise tests of secret military projects
>and/or psychological responses to unknown/novel stimuli.

This is not a question on which it would be appropriate for me
to comment, beyond a general observation that prototype aircraft
or UAVs are generally test flown in clearly defined areas set
aside for this purpose. I can't say any more than this, but was
not in any case briefed on any such projects, because I had no
'need to know'. I'm afraid I've snipped out most of the rest of
your post, as the questions followed from your point above. I


>>I no longer have access to the Ministry of Defence's UFO files,
>>and I'm doing this from memory, so I may have missed out some
>>important issues. But I hope this has at least highlighted some
>>of the difficulties we faced when trying to do statistical
>>analysis of UFO data. I'm sure ufologists ran into exactly the
>>same problems, and I'd be interested in people's thoughts on

>Thank you, Nick.

>I was wondering...were you asked by your superiors to do this study or
>was it just for your own personal information? Did you share the
>results of your study with the MOD, file it - what happened to the

I undertook this project on my own initiative, but it was wholly
consistent with my brief. We received several hundred reports of
UFO sightings each year, and my research into the geographical
spread of sightings complemented my investigative work. This is
something I did around ten years ago now, so I can't be sure of
the details, but I probably briefed my line manager and side
copied the maps to colleagues in the Directorate of Air Defence
and the Defence Intelligence Staff. All this work was
unclassified, and in line with an initiative on Open Government
I released the maps to various UFO organisations and
researchers, both proactively and on demand. I think they've
been published in various books and magazines, and may be on the
internet somewhere. Perhaps some of the UK ufologists to whom I
released this material can help on this?

Best wishes,

Nick Pope

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