From: Alfred Lehmberg <Lehmberg.nul> Date: Sat, 14 Feb 2004 17:10:56 -0600 Fwd Date: Sun, 15 Feb 2004 12:38:21 -0500 Subject: Re: 50 Years ago The Coniston UFO Photograph - >From: Joe McGonagle <joe.mcgonagle.nul> >To: <ufoupdates.nul> >Date: Sat, 14 Feb 2004 12:23:17 -0000 >Subject: Re: 50 Years ago The Coniston UFO Photograph >>From: Alfred Lehmberg <Lehmberg.nul> >>To: ufoupdates.nul >>Date: Sat, 14 Feb 2004 04:31:57 -0600 >>Subject: Re: 50 Years ago The Coniston UFO Photograph >>>From: Chris Parr <cparr.nul> >>>To: <ufoupdates.nul> >>>Date: Fri, 13 Feb 2004 22:48:03 -0000 >>>Subject: Re: 50 Years ago The Coniston UFO Photograph ><snip> >>"Prolonged and desperate," Mr. Parr, I think more accurately >>describes a belligerent attempt by Mr. Roberts to recapture >>credibility lost as a result of an arrogant admission he made >>(while in his post conference cups, I understand) regarding >>"blue hare", that he (and the good Doctor "C") had been hoaxing >>around in Ufology "for years". >Hmm... I don't recall Dave Clarke being implicated in the Blue >Hare hoax/test/experiment/crime/blasphemous sin? Perhaps I >missed something? It's referenced in Burns "The Usual Suspects..." witnessed by persons standing in the group addressed, and not denied by the principals. You may miss more than you think, sir. >>Perhaps Mr. Roberts can re-garner some of that credibility lost >>were he to come clean about his duplicity and start acting like >I thought that was the point? He did come clean about "his >duplicity", and that's why you've got the hump? Details, Mr. McGonagle. It's all in the details. In a post- conference drunken brag... he let slip the tip of the iceberg. I suppose you're quite comfortable running aground on what remains beneath the surface. I'm, decidedly, not. >>a researcher instead of a snarky pelicanist ideologue... be that >Am I to take it that only people that believe in alien >visitation are worthy of calling themselves researchers, >according to your credo? ...I guess the short answer to that question is, YES, Mr. McGonagle, frankly! I'm fed up with reluctant ufological blow- bags and mainstream scientistics (sic) standing around and wringing their hands regarding an asked and answered question on whether aliens exist or not! They exist! Massive evidence exists on extant levels championed by better persons than you and me. They exist. If you still wonder if they do or not... I don't have a whole lot of time for you, flatly. Insisting to dwell on that question, when it has already been answered enough for any -reasonable- person, makes you part of the problem and decidedly contrary to a rational solution... and part of the reason we haven't gotten anywhere in 50 years! Be proud! They exist, sir. Have some courage! Let's move on. >That seems somewhat elitist to me, >though I can see that it would be less challenging to some >people's convictions. Not elitist, sir! You take your garden varity and vat dyed pelicanist. Now, there's your lock-kneed elitist. Swing your unclever brush away from me. Thank you. >>as it may, your description of my small dissent as a "hate >>campaign" seems like nothing more than abject surrender to >>whiney histrionics and ardent spin doctoring. I'm unmoved in the >You seem to be quite adept at "whiney histrionics and ardent >spin doctoring" yourself. Mountains and molehills come to mind, >no doubt you could expand that simple expression to a thousand >or so words...perhaps turn it into one of odd Alfred's odes. ...You want discourse, or do you want to stand around, slack- jawed, and make uncleverly inaccurate comments? I'll wait. Oh - and an Ode is in the works, Sir. Thanks. >>first place, suspect there will be no credible revelations from >>Mr. Roberts forthcoming in the second, and would you tell him to >>stay the hell out of my e-mail box in the third? Thanks. >Alfred, I doubt that Andy would take any notice, no matter who >told him to stay out of your inbox. The solution is simple, >apply a filter to your inbox if you want to play "I can't hear >you!". ...I should think a real gentelman would respect another's expressed wishes, sir. I don't see where I have to exert one ERG of energy building a wall that would preclude him the opportunity to write something informative, informational, or even apologetic. I'm not about walls and the necessity for them, Mr. McGonagle, your intrepid and respected *researcher,* Mr. Roberts is. >For the record, I do appreciate and accept the revelation >obtained by Andy and Dave regarding the admission by Darbishire >that he hoaxed the image. On the other hand, perhaps you think >that they beat the confession out of him, in true MI5 style. You can put your faith and trust in it, sir, I think it's the act of a fool. Moreover, I think anybody with a lick of sense and a CSICOPian war story thinks so too. Hope this helps... Verily. Lehmberg.nul EXPLORE "AlienViewGroup" at its HostPros URL. http://www.alienview.net JOHN FORD RESTORATION FUND -- John will be released eventually. He'll need a tax free cash stake to get on his feet. Let's put one together for him; the bigger it is -- the more attention he gets. It could have been you. E-mail for detail. $450.00 pledged -- $200.00 collected! "I cleave the heavens, and soar to the infinite. What others see from afar, I leave far behind me." - Giordano Bruno, scourged by the scabrously specious scurrilous.
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