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Re: The Beveridge UFO - Stanford

From: Ray Stanford <dinotracker.nul>
Date: Thu, 12 Feb 2004 16:38:20 -0500
Fwd Date: Fri, 13 Feb 2004 09:25:21 -0500
Subject: Re: The Beveridge UFO - Stanford


>From: John Velez <johnvelez.aic.nul>
>To: ufoupdates.nul
>Date: Thu, 12 Feb 2004 14:23:32 -0500
>Subject: Re: The Beveridge UFO

>>From: Ray Stanford <dinotracker.nul>
>>To: <ufoupdates.nul>
>>Date: Wed, 11 Feb 2004 11:23:13 -0500
>>Subject: Re: The Beveridge UFO

>>>From: John Velez <johnvelez.aic.nul>
>>>To: ufoupdates.nul
>>>Date: Tue, 10 Feb 2004 16:42:17 -0500
>>>Subject: Re: The Beveridge UFO

>><snip>

>>>I demand a public apology for the way you have spoken to me,
>>>and as for _your_ 'alleged' credentials, I await copies.

>You respond:

>>No need to send me copies, as I am inclined to accept what you
>>said.

>It's easy to say that after the fact isn't it? You have been in
>receipt of my credentials for two days.

Sorry, John, but the image of your credential came as just from
"John" with the subject line, "For you". I get so many spams
these days from people who think I have both tensile and
dimensional needs with the masculine appendage, that I just
thought it was one of those and sent it into the delete file.

Only after I received another private communication from you
with Berveridge UFO in the subject line did I begin to realize
over a late dinner last night, that the deleted message might
have been from you, so when we got back home, I went to the
delete file and wrote you, privately: "Congratulations! I
believed you at your word with this morning's post from you,
but now I have before me the 'ocular evidence'."

I further said to you last evening, via email, privately:

"I only spoke of suspicions and did not call you a liar. Read it
again, but keep in mind that... that first letter was never
intended to be sent as I explained _on-list_, describing the
mistake of how it was accidentally sent. In fact, I can't
understand how Errol even mistakenly posted it because it
clearly was sent by me accidentally (Would you like to see a
copy of what got sent accidentally to Errol with all the stuff
from your letter retained at the bottom?), since it definitely
was not in keeping (because of all the text I left down at the
bottom) with his clearly delineated rules of submission, but
accidents and oversights happen."

That happened, however, so I think it incumbent upon me to
apologize for my private, off-the-cuff pondering, that
inadvertently got published in this List.

So, John, please accept my apology. I also want to apologize for
doubting (albeit only temporarily and intended privately) what
you had said about your training, for as I see on the
certificate from Long Island University School of Continuing
Studies, dated November, 1995, you satisfactorily completely and
satisfied all program requirements at their Computer Graphics
Training Center.

As I said last night and meant it, "Congratulations!" I am
positively impressed.

I certainly did not intend to insult your intelligence (even
when I sometimes question your reasoning), because you are
obviously among the real thinkers on this List, and I often find
myself in agreement with points or even complaints you make,
although at other times I differ.

Anyhow, John, you have my apology, my congratulations, and my
best wishes,


Ray Stanford

P.S.: And hey, List, my apology for inadvertently starting an
un-called-for mess. You will not have to put up with me much
longer, because soon I must be signing-off to get more serious
work done on three books, a couple of them with a fellow
ufologist-author. But I will remember each of you fondly,
whether you be believer, skeptic, serious researcher, friend,
enemy, critic, fellow-traveler, and whatever you might be. Tiwud
with good wishes to all.




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