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Re: Review Of Sight Unseen - Cammack

From: Diana Cammack <cammack.nul>
Date: Wed, 11 Feb 2004 13:18:37 +0200
Fwd Date: Wed, 11 Feb 2004 07:59:20 -0500
Subject: Re: Review Of Sight Unseen - Cammack

>From: Nick Pope <nick.nul>
>To: <ufoupdates.nul>
>Date: Tue, 10 Feb 2004 20:22:23 -0000
>Subject: Re: Review Of Sight Unseen

>>From: Joe McGonagle <joe.mcgonagle.nul>
>>To: <ufoupdates.nul>
>>Date: Sat, 7 Feb 2004 14:59:46 -0000
>>Subject: Re: Review Of Sight Unseen

>>>From: Nick Pope <nick.nul>
>>>To: <ufoupdates.nul>
>>>Date: Fri, 6 Feb 2004 00:56:58 -0000
>>>Subject: Re: Review Of Sight Unseen


>>>I acknowledge that this is frustrating for other researchers. A
>>>similar debate rages over symbols reported by some abductees.
>>>Budd has a large database of such symbols and is often urged to
>>>publish the data. But he deliberately withholds this information
>>>so that he can use it as a way of cross-checking witness
>>>testimony. It would clearly be very interesting if different
>>>abductees reported having seen the same symbols, provided Budd
>>>could be sure that there had been no collusion. The moment the
>>>data are in the public domain, this technique would be invalid.

>>I am aware that you are currently taking a particular interest
>>in the abduction phenomenon, Nick. Has Budd shared any of his
>>symbol database with you, and are you paying specific attention
>>to symbols and/or languages involved in abduction reports in the
>>course of your current research?

>>This is one avenue of abduction research which may produce
>>measurable results, IMHO.


>I share your view that these are fruitful areas for research,
>and when time allows, I intend to return to this. But even if
>some apparent matches are reported, we need to be cautious. If
>the symbols are in the public domain (e.g. on the abduct.com
>website) we cannot be certain that the abductee has not come
>across them before. And even if more than one abductee reports
>symbols not in the public domain (e.g. ones in Budd's
>deliberately withheld database) we cannot be certain that there
>has been no collusion, with intent to defraud.

>Anyway, perhaps this is an area that the Goldsmiths College
>study might probe, in the course of the detailed interviews they
>intend to carry out with participants into their scientific
>study into the alien abduction phenomenon. I'll raise this with
>Professor Chris French or Julia Santomauro.

I urge any researchers to collect material in places like
Africa, in order to avoid the problem of experiencers being
exposed to media (movies, internet, etc) where symbols, stories,
and other data are shared.

While it may require an effort to find abductees in such areas,
the reward of collecting untainted testimonies should outweigh
the problems.


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