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Re: The Beveridge UFO - Ledger

From: Don Ledger <dledger.nul>
Date: Sat, 07 Feb 2004 12:50:17 -0400
Fwd Date: Sat, 07 Feb 2004 17:30:08 -0500
Subject: Re: The Beveridge UFO - Ledger

>From: Richard Hall <hallrichard99.nul>
>To: ufoupdates.nul
>Date: Sat, 07 Feb 2004 14:34:14 +0000
>Subject: Re: The Beveridge UFO


>This thread is beginning to bug me.

>But seriously folks, has anyone addressed the possibility (all
>alternatives need to be considered and confirmed or ruled out) that
>the image is the result of a developmental flaw? If so, I missed
>that. But then, I haven't followed every single comment having seen
>hundreds of such photos come and go over the years.

>Very often when the photographer sees nothing, it is because there
>was nothing there to see. This may be different for digital cameras,
>but someone should at least address the issue if they haven't

What "bugs" me Dick is the assumption that the object is a bug
when there is no evidence to support this contention. There is
work to be done here. For one thing the stated direction in
which the picture was taken conflicts with the stated time of
day and the shadow lines. Additionally I've been a photographer
for some 30 years and made a profession out of it for some time.
This bug in front of the lens has never occurred in the
thousands of pics I've taken nor for that matter have birds
shown up, unless I was shooting them. I have one anomalous photo
out of those thousands, and that was during a time exposure of
the Moon, a top shaped object -which I did not see- on it's side
some distance away from the Moon. I don't know what it is, but
one thing I'm certain of is that it's not a lens flare [consider
the light during time exposure] now a bug.

These convenient bugs and birds, which no one seems to be able
to identify or explain, are just that... convienient. Let's do
the work before we run around half cocked pretending that we
"ufologists" are beyond being duped by a bug in front of the
lens when indeed you might be duped into the wrong

Since the nature of the anomalous object-commonly known as a
ufo- is picked up with a camera and not seen by the witness-
what's the big deal? The camera-even the SLR-is far more capable
of stopping action at 1/2,000th of a second than is the human
eye which stops action only up to about 1/15th-1/16th of a
second.Digital cameras can stop action up to 1/20,000 of a
second. I see nothing remotely unusual about the photographer
not "seeing" that object, particularly through the tiny field of
a view finder. I sometimes wonder if any of those on these lists
ever use a camera or know anything about them considering the
nonsense I see on here.

Some one mentions there being no "sonic boom" if this object was
moving above the speed of sound. Paul R. Hill, an aerodynamicist
with Langley at NASA wondered the same thing about reports back
in the 50's 60s and 70's etc., and believed that it had
something to do with a possible field generated around the
object as a result of it's power source or perhaps purposely to
allow the object to slide effortlessly through the atmosphere.
He also noted that often the object was moving with a large
portion of its surface inclined into to the direction of flight
which would induce terrific drag, rather than attempting to
plane at some angle of attack. It has to be remembered that the
atmosphere creates terrific drag even after transonic
achievement, so eliminating it is a desirable effect.

Here's an experiment. Try and find the solid body of the Columbia inside
the plasma ball surrounding it as it breaks up in the atmosphere.
Those that can't get by today's physics are really going to have a
problem in the "UFO" field.

If we can't determine what it is then it is an unknown [that
means UFO, for those that don't understand the term], not a bug
or a bird because we can't identify it.

Sour grapes explanation. It's probably a "bug".

Don Ledger

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