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Re: Tracing The Flow Of The Gulf Breeze Money -

From: Kenny Young <ufo.nul>
Date: Sat, 07 Feb 2004 02:05:56 -0500
Fwd Date: Sat, 07 Feb 2004 09:30:18 -0500
Subject: Re: Tracing The Flow Of The Gulf Breeze Money -

Robert, List;

I called Jerry about the questions after his post to UpDates.
Jerry asked that I type some answers on his behalf. These are
his words in response to questions by Robert Gates, as I have
re-typed them and verified by Jerry over the telephone this

-- Kenny


>From: Robert Gates <RGates8254.nul>
>To: ufoupdates.nul
>Date: Fri, 6 Feb 2004 02:14:08 EST
>Subject: Re: Tracing The Flow Of The Gulf Breeze Money

>>From: Jerry Black <gulfbreezeinfo.nul>
>>To: ufoupdates.nul
>>Date: Wed, 4 Feb 2004 19:13:29 -0800 (PST)
>>Subject: Tracing The Flow Of The Gulf Breeze Money



>I read with interest your piece and was disappointed as it
>appears to be a bunch of allegations that don't have any
>details substantiated. I would like to ask some questions
>and get a detailed straight answer.

>What date and exactly how much did Ed Walters give money to
>MUFON/FUFOR? What was the context of the money? Donation? - Do
>you have a copy of any agreement/email/letter and or
>communication between Ed Walters and or Walt Andrus?

Jerry Black responds:

Vicky Lyons and Charles Flannigan both confirmed to Rex
Salisberry that MUFON received money from Ed Walters for the
purpose of subsidizing the investigation of the Gulf Breeze
sightings. This was later confirmed in a phone conversation
between Ed Walters and Rex Salisberry. Ed Walters said that he
had paid money to the MUFON organization to support the
investigation. He also said that he had shared part of his
proceeds of the book royalties with Mr. Maccabee.

We do not have an exact figure how much Walters gave. I do not
have copies of checks or E-mails.

The amount of money was rumored to be between ten to twenty
thousand dollars.

From page 70 of Carol and Rex Salisberry's comprehensive report
entitled "Anatomy of the Gulf Breeze - Ed Walters UFO Case," Rex
states: "We were told by Vicky Lyons, who witnessed the original
investigation, that Walters had paid for some of the
investigative costs incurred early during the investigation.
This troubled us because this appeared to be something which had
been hidden by MUFON."

>Do you have a copy of the letter Walters allegedly wrote to
>Hyzer and or Salisbery about the photos? Do you know for a fact
>that he (Walters) had the report in his hands, meaning that
>somebody at MUFON received the reports from Hyzer/Salisbery,
>promptly over nighted them to Walters? Timing would be critical
>here. One could almost conclude that somebody up the vine just
>pickup the phone and call Walters about something in one of the

Ed Walters wrote a letter to photoanalyst William G. Hyzer
telling him that he did not have permission to use his Gulf
Breeze photos because they were copyrighted. This is according
to Mr. Hyzer as he told me by telephone. Hyzer was surprise and
upset because it was his understanding that the information
given in his report was to be directed only to the MUFON
director Walt Andrus and the information not to be arbitrarily
given out to Walters, the claimant.

Hyzer received the reply from Ed Walters within 48 hours of
issuing his less than favorable report. Ed Walters sent this
letter via special delivery "Air Mail" to Hyzer within 48-hours
of Hyzer delivering his report to MUFON.

Common sense would dictate that if Ed Walters responded in 48-
 hours after the Hyzer report was sent to Walt Andrus, that
Walters certainly must have been given the - conclusion of the
report almost immediately.

>Do you have a copy of the 5000.00 Walters check or a specific
>admission from Bob Oechsler for the alleged work he did on the
>Walters photo(s)?

Yes we do. I have an admission from Oechsler during a 3-hour
telephone conversation that I had with him. He acknowledged
receiving $5,000 from Walters. Maccabee has also noted this in
his responses to my earlier investigative expose. Bob Oechsler
has admitted receiving $5,000 from Ed Walters for doing work
with the original Polaroid pictures of alleged UFOs.

Whatever work was done by Oechsler for the $5,000 was not useful
or beneficial in analyzing the validating of the Gulf Breeze

I apologize to the UFO Update List that I am not always able to
quickly respond 'on list' to questions, but again, please call
me at my telephone number, toll free, at 1-877-731-8400.

 - Jerry Black

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