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Re: Review Of Sight Unseen - Pope

From: Nick Pope <nick.nul>
Date: Fri, 6 Feb 2004 00:56:58 -0000
Fwd Date: Fri, 06 Feb 2004 07:32:51 -0500
Subject: Re: Review Of Sight Unseen - Pope

>From: John Harney <magonia.nul>
>To: <ufoupdates.nul>
>Date: Wed, 4 Feb 2004 21:15:29 -0000
>Subject: Re: Review Of Sight Unseen - Harney

>>From: Stuart Miller <Stuart.Miller4.nul>
>>To: <ufoupdates.nul>
>>Date: Tue, 3 Feb 2004 17:27:53 -0000
>>Subject: Re: Review Of Sight Unseen


>>If Hopkins is convinced of the veracity of a witnesses testimony
>>(and as he revealed, he has various means of checking) and yet

>If he _really_ has various means of checking why doesn't he tell
>us what they are?


John, Stuart and List,

I'm not sure that Budd Hopkins has claimed to have a sure-fire
way of checking the veracity of witnesses. What I have heard him
say previously is that he has some techniques to smoke out
witnesses who are confabulating, or making up stories that they
think he wants to hear.

One such technique involved him attempting to lead witnesses by
suggesting that if their experience was real, a specific course
of action would almost certainly have followed. He then said
what this was and asked whether it had indeed occurred. Budd
believed that someone who was confabulating or lying would go
along with the suggestion, in an effort to match their narrative
with what Budd had led them to believe was a standard pattern in
genuine abduction experiences.

A similar technique was used during the Roper Poll, when in
addition to five questions revolving around scenarios often
reported by abductees, people were asked whether the word
"Trondant" had any secret meaning to them. The word had been
made up and the question was designed simply to weed out those
people who automatically said yes to the scenarios, for whatever

It may be that Budd has other such techniques up his sleeve. If
he does, it's obvious that revealing them would invalidate them
as a tool for spotting liars, fantasists and confabulators.

I acknowledge that this is frustrating for other researchers. A
similar debate rages over symbols reported by some abductees.
Budd has a large database of such symbols and is often urged to
publish the data. But he deliberately withholds this information
so that he can use it as a way of cross-checking witness
testimony. It would clearly be very interesting if different
abductees reported having seen the same symbols, provided Budd
could be sure that there had been no collusion. The moment the
data are in the public domain, this technique would be invalid.

Best wishes,

Nick Pope

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