From: Ed Gehrman <egehrman.nul> Date: Thu, 5 Feb 2004 13:14:18 -0800 Fwd Date: Fri, 06 Feb 2004 07:25:15 -0500 Subject: Re: State Of Ufology - Gehrman >From: Richard Hall <hallrichard99.nul> >To: ufoupdates.nul >Date: Wed, 04 Feb 2004 22:25:39 +0000 >Subject: Re: State Of Ufology >>From: Ed Gehrman <egehrman.nul> >>To: <ufoupdates.nul> >>Date: Wed, 4 Feb 2004 11:18:15 -0800 >>Subject: Re: State Of Ufology >>>From: Richard Hall <hallrichard99.nul> >>>To: ufoupdates.nul >>>Date: Tue, 03 Feb 2004 22:13:19 +0000 >>>Subject: State Of Ufology ><snip> >>>Basically, there is no such thing in any meaningful sense as >>>"Ufology". There are some very dedicated people >>No, there are many dedicated people! >>>who have tried >>>hard, some for a very long time, to try to bring order and >>>reason into the study of UFOs. With very little success >>>overall. >>I disagree. We've been very successful in convincing the general >>public that there is/has been a cover-up of UFO information by >>powerful interests. >So, we strongly disagree. That's fine. I''m merely expressing my >opinion, and you are expressing yours. >But "We are all being skillfully manipulated and ignored by >powerful forces...?" How paranoid is that? Richard, Not one iota. If it is, I share the condition with Stanton (Cosmic Watergate) and Bruce M ( Abduction in my Life). If we are not being told the truth by our government, then we are being manipulated. What would you call it? And the fact that they're powerful must be obvious to all. And their skillfulness is self validating. You don't seem to be bothered. >I gave you rather >succinct reasons why we are being ignored, which you don't seem >to comprehend. I comprehend, I just don't agree. >Also, we haven't succeeded in convincing very >many people who really matter (i.e., who have it in their power >to change things) at all. Of course not! We are being dominated by powerful forces and they are continuously trying to keep the notion suppressed. The final revelation will probably be the result of some inadvertent SNAFU or unintended consequence. Let's hope they're still only human. Unless it's really too late! Then I expect a flu pandemic or a Mad Cow type disease to sort out the winners and losers. >Please define the "general public" and how you imagine they >alone will be able to change things. We (the general public) have little or no power to influence what will happen or the ability to "change things" - right now. But if we stay informed and get pissed or scared or lucky enough, we might. Check out the following: http://www.ufoevidence.org/documents/doc969.htm A new national poll found that 72 percent of Americans believe the government is not telling the public everything it knows about UFO activity, and 68 percent think the government knows more about extraterrestrial life than it is letting on, the SCI FI Channel reported. The poll-sponsored by SCI FI as part of its promotion for Steven Spielberg's 20-hour SF miniseries Taken- also revealed that men more than women think such information should be shared with the public. RoperASW conducted the poll of 1,021 adults aged 18 and over from Aug. 23-25. The margin of error is 3 percent. Among the poll's other findings: - The younger you are, the stronger your belief that the government is withholding information about UFOs and extraterrestrial life: 80 percent of respondents 18-24 years old said so, compared with 75 percent of those 25-34 years old and 73 percent of those 35-49 years old. - Just over half (53 percent) of respondents said that their level of trust in the government has remained stable over the past five years, while nearly a third (29 percent) said that they trust the government less than they did five years ago. - Most respondents said that the government does not share enough information with the public in general (55 percent) and that the U.S. government should not withhold information about UFO sightings (60 percent) and potential encounters with extraterrestrial life (58 percent) when national security is not an issue.
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