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Re: State Of Ufology - Gehrman

From: Ed Gehrman <egehrman.nul>
Date: Thu, 5 Feb 2004 13:14:18 -0800
Fwd Date: Fri, 06 Feb 2004 07:25:15 -0500
Subject: Re: State Of Ufology - Gehrman

>From: Richard Hall <hallrichard99.nul>
>To: ufoupdates.nul
>Date: Wed, 04 Feb 2004 22:25:39 +0000
>Subject: Re: State Of Ufology

>>From: Ed Gehrman <egehrman.nul>
>>To: <ufoupdates.nul>
>>Date: Wed, 4 Feb 2004 11:18:15 -0800
>>Subject: Re: State Of Ufology

>>>From: Richard Hall <hallrichard99.nul>
>>>To: ufoupdates.nul
>>>Date: Tue, 03 Feb 2004 22:13:19 +0000
>>>Subject: State Of Ufology


>>>Basically, there is no such thing in any meaningful sense as
>>>"Ufology". There are some very dedicated people

>>No, there are many dedicated people!

>>>who have tried
>>>hard, some for a very long time, to try to bring order and
>>>reason into the study of UFOs. With very little success

>>I disagree. We've been very successful in convincing the general
>>public that there is/has been a cover-up of UFO information by
>>powerful interests.

>So, we strongly disagree. That's fine. I''m merely expressing my
>opinion, and you are expressing yours.

>But "We are all being skillfully manipulated and ignored by
>powerful forces...?" How paranoid is that?


Not one iota. If it is, I share the condition with Stanton
(Cosmic Watergate) and Bruce M ( Abduction in my Life). If we
are not being told the truth by our government, then we are
being manipulated. What would you call it? And the fact that
they're powerful must be obvious to all. And their skillfulness
is self validating. You don't seem to be bothered.

>I gave you rather
>succinct reasons why we are being ignored, which you don't seem
>to comprehend.

I comprehend, I just don't agree.

>Also, we haven't succeeded in convincing very
>many people who really matter (i.e., who have it in their power
>to change things) at all.

Of course not! We are being dominated by powerful forces and
they are continuously trying to keep the notion suppressed. The
final revelation will probably be the result of some inadvertent
SNAFU or unintended consequence. Let's hope they're still only

Unless it's really too late! Then I expect a flu pandemic or a
Mad Cow type disease to sort out the winners and losers.

>Please define the "general public" and how you imagine they
>alone will be able to change things.

We (the general public) have little or no power to influence
what will happen or the ability to "change things" - right now.
But if we stay informed and get pissed or scared or lucky
enough, we might.

Check out the following:


A new national poll found that 72 percent of Americans believe
the government is not telling the public everything it knows
about UFO activity, and 68 percent think the government knows
more about extraterrestrial life than it is letting on, the SCI
FI Channel reported. The poll-sponsored by SCI FI as part of its
promotion for Steven Spielberg's 20-hour SF miniseries Taken-
also revealed that men more than women think such information
should be shared with the public. RoperASW conducted the poll of
1,021 adults aged 18 and over from Aug. 23-25. The margin of
error is 3 percent.

Among the poll's other findings:

 - The younger you are, the stronger your belief that the
government is withholding information about UFOs and
extraterrestrial life: 80 percent of respondents 18-24 years old
said so, compared with 75 percent of those 25-34 years old and
73 percent of those 35-49 years old.

 - Just over half (53 percent) of respondents said that their
level of trust in the government has remained stable over the
past five years, while nearly a third (29 percent) said that
they trust the government less than they did five years ago.

 - Most respondents said that the government does not share
enough information with the public in general (55 percent) and
that the U.S. government should not withhold information about
UFO sightings (60 percent) and potential encounters with
extraterrestrial life (58 percent) when national security is not
an issue.

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