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Re: State Of Ufology - Kaeser

From: Steven Kaeser <steve.nul>
Date: Thu, 5 Feb 2004 10:33:54 -0500
Fwd Date: Thu, 05 Feb 2004 14:27:37 -0500
Subject: Re: State Of Ufology - Kaeser

>From: Richard Hall <hallrichard99.nul>
>To: ufoupdates.nul
>Date: Wed, 04 Feb 2004 22:25:39 +0000
>Subject: Re: State Of Ufology

>>From: Ed Gehrman <egehrman.nul>
>>To: <ufoupdates.nul>
>>Date: Wed, 4 Feb 2004 11:18:15 -0800
>>Subject: Re: State Of Ufology

>>>From: Richard Hall <hallrichard99.nul>
>>>To: ufoupdates.nul
>>>Date: Tue, 03 Feb 2004 22:13:19 +0000
>>>Subject: State Of Ufology


>>>Basically, there is no such thing in any meaningful sense as
>>>"Ufology". There are some very dedicated people

>>No, there are many dedicated people!

>>>who have tried
>>>hard, some for a very long time, to try to bring order and
>>>reason into the study of UFOs. With very little success

>>I disagree. We've been very successful in convincing the general
>>public that there is/has been a cover-up of UFO information by
>>powerful interests.

>So, we strongly disagree. That's fine. I''m merely expressing my
>opinion, and you are expressing yours.

>But "We are all being skillfully manipulated and ignored by
>powerful forces...?" How paranoid is that? I gave you rather
>succinct reasons why we are being ignored, which you don't seem
>to comprehend. Also, we haven't succeeded in convincing very
>many people who really matter (i.e., who have it in their power
>to change things) at all.

>Please define the "general public" and how you imagine they
>alone will be able to change things.


I would have to agree with Richard here. My experience with most
people that I come in contact with outside the field don't have
any belief in alien visitation or UFOs. Most people probably do
believe there are many things that the Government is keeping
secret (for a variety of reasons) and that may involve
information pertaining to unidentified lights in the sky. That
doesn't translate into a belief that we're being visited by
alien craft or that there is any validity to alien abductions.

In a recent magazine article, a major UFO author was quoted as
saying that one of his prime "scientific" sources of information
was the MUFON Journal, which just about caused me to fall out of
my chair laughing. IMO, the Journal of UFO Studies (which is
published infrequently) is the only UFO publication that could
be considered to be scientific. There are certainly good
articles in the MUFON Journal, IUR and other UFO publications.
But none of them approach the level of a truly scientific
journal, which is a problem for ufology.


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