From: Don Ledger <dledger.nul>
Date: Thu, 09 Dec 2004 13:46:31 -0400
Fwd Date: Thu, 09 Dec 2004 13:11:12 -0500
Subject: Re: Astronomy Evidence/Data Methodologies - Ledger


>From: Christopher Allan <cda.nul>
>To: <ufoupdates.nul>
>Date: Wed, 8 Dec 2004 23:13:24 -0000
>Subject: Re: Astronomy Evidence/Data Methodologies

>>From: Brad Sparks <RB47x.nul>
>>To: ufoupdates.nul
>>Date: Tue, 7 Dec 2004 17:06:21 EST
>>Subject: Re: Astronomy Evidence/Data Methodologies

<snip>

>You mentioned meteors and meteorites.

>I do believe that the lack of actual UFO hardware is the biggest
>obstacle to scientific acceptance.

>It is useless to give the oft-repeated response that the
>authorities already possess this hardware but are keeping it top
>secret. This standard ufological rejoinder will cut no ice with
>the scientific establishment (or the media), and you cannot
>really blame them for poking derision at it. Ufology is too
>world-wide for this 'buck passing' to be valid.

We often throw around the term "scientific community" which is
as valid a term as "ufology" and too broad based.

Which "scientific community" are we referring to? The
pharmaceutical scientific community, the scientific research
divisions of the military complex, NASA's cloistered, federally
funded community [until they retire] the universities',
federally funded scientific communities, the medical scientific
community [i.e. the psychiatric field-which is no more exact
than ufology when it comes down to it and probably less so].

The point is each scientific community has its own vested
interest and sacred cow to protect - not to mention its funding.
An example of this is Physics versus Egyptology re the age of
the Sphinx. These communities fight amongst themselves.

This is too large a subject to get into for one person but I'm
sure most have had experiences where the co-called scientific
community has impacted their belief systems and not just where
it concerns the UFO phenomenon.

There is one common denominator to all of them and that is the
possible impact of the UFO phenomenon on their own communities
and it seems to filter through all of them.

Does anyone else feel that we are being sold a bill of goods by
those more interested in maintaining the status quo rather than
'what is'?


Don Ledger