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From: Christopher Allan <cda.nul> Date: Wed, 8 Dec 2004 23:13:24 -0000 Fwd Date: Thu, 09 Dec 2004 08:31:27 -0500 Subject: Re: Astronomy Evidence/Data Methodologies - Allan >From: Brad Sparks <RB47x.nul> >To: ufoupdates.nul >Date: Tue, 7 Dec 2004 17:06:21 EST >Subject: Re: Astronomy Evidence/Data Methodologies >>From: Frank Warren <frank-warren.nul> >>To: UFO UpDates - Toronto <ufoupdates.nul> >>Date: Mon, 06 Dec 2004 09:16:25 -0800 >>Subject: Astronomy Evidence/Data Methodologies <snip> You mentioned meteors and meteorites. I do believe that the lack of actual UFO hardware is the biggest obstacle to scientific acceptance. Meteorites were in a similar position for many decades. It took several large falls, culminating in the L'Aigle fall in 1803, to finally convince the scientific academy (in France) that Chladni's ideas were correct and that meteorites actually fell from the sky, and came from outer space. I feel UFOs (assuming they are nuts & bolts spacecraft) will never be accepted until & unless real hardware is found and produced. If this proves very elusive, too bad: we shall have to wait until such hardware, preferably in abundance, turns up. Then, and only then, will there be a chance of finally proving UFO reality to the scientific establishment. There is no clear alternative. It is useless to give the oft-repeated response that the authorities already possess this hardware but are keeping it top secret. This standard ufological rejoinder will cut no ice with the scientific establishment (or the media), and you cannot really blame them for poking derision at it. Ufology is too world-wide for this 'buck passing' to be valid. Hardware is needed, and sooner rather than later. CDA
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