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Re: Jimmy Carter The Nobel Prize & Extraterrestrials

From: Bob Young <YoungBob2@aol.com>
Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2002 21:27:08 EST
Fwd Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2002 04:15:27 -0500
Subject: Re: Jimmy Carter The Nobel Prize & Extraterrestrials


 >From: Jerry Cohen <rjcohen@optonline.net>
 >To: ufoupdates@virtuallystrange.net
 >Date: Fri, 25 Oct 2002 09:56:05 -0400
 >Subject: Re: Jimmy Carter The Nobel Prize & Extraterrestrials

 >>From: Richard Hall <hallrichard99@hotmail.com>
 >>To: ufoupdates@virtuallystrange.net
 >>Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 22:29:30 +0000
 >>Subject: Re: Jimmy Carter The Nobel Prize & Extraterrestrials

 >>>From: Bob Young <YoungBob2@aol.com>
 >>>To: ufoupdates@virtuallystrange.net
 >>>Date: Sat, 12 Oct 2002 21:10:09 EDT
 >>>Subject: Re: Jimmy Carter The Nobel Prize & Extraterrestrials

 >>>This famous IFO was actually the planet Venus, as
 >>>determined by Robert Sheaffer many years ago and
 >>>published in The Humanist, July-August 1977, p. 46.

 >>>The problem was that Carter was mistaken about the
 >>>date when recounting it years later. Sheaffer got to the
 >>>bottom of it.

 >>>Please see:

 >>>http://www.debunker.com/texts/carter_ufo.html

<snip>

 >It is certainly possible for a person to make an error regarding
 >a date while hastily filling out a form and still be quite
 >accurate in remembering what he/she saw at a particular moment,
 >especially if that event imprinted on the mind.

Hi, Jerry:

The point about the date error was that on the correct date
Venus was visible in the direction Carter looked. Also it
allowed Sheaffer to locate other people who were also present:
they didn't recall seeing anything unusual. This suggests
strongly that what Carter saw was not brighter than the Moon or
exhibiting the bizarre motions that he reported.

The argument that any witness is not capable of mistaking Venus
for a UFO ignores 50 years of IFOs by "qualified" people who
probably also saw Venus many times before.

That's why it's so often called an Identified Flying Object.


Clear skies,

Bob Young



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