From: Jerome Clark <firstname.lastname@example.org> Date: Wed, 9 Oct 2002 12:06:16 -0500 Fwd Date: Wed, 09 Oct 2002 15:37:16 -0400 Subject: Re: Are We Really Ready For Disclosure? - Clark >From: Steven Kaeser <email@example.com> >To: <firstname.lastname@example.org> >Date: Tue, 8 Oct 2002 18:51:05 -0400 >Subject: Re: Are We Really Ready For Disclosure? >>From: John Velez <email@example.com> >>To: firstname.lastname@example.org >>Date: Tue, 8 Oct 2002 15:05:33 -0400 >>Subject: Re: Are We Really Ready For Disclosure? >>Jackie Gleason was also shown dead aliens by his friend >>Richard Nixon during the last days of his Presidency >>I've been hearing this one for years. Does anybody know if >>there is any truth to it? I've always considered it a kind of >>'urban legend'. I'm just curious if any one knows anything >>about this particular walnut. >I believe that Jackie Gleason's widow mentions this episode in a >biography of her late husband. It's only a small tangent, but >it's fairly well known that Gleason was very interested in UFOs >and reportedly had a home built in the shape of one. Jackie Gleason was indeed a UFO buff. He also had a keen interest in psychic phenomena. His views, while sympathetic, were also hard-headed, and he was not a credulous enthusiast. (See, for example, the amusing account in Long John Nebel's The Way Out World concerning Gleason's confrontation with contactee George King.) He subscribed to two magazines with which I have been associated, Fate and International UFO Reporter. In the latter context, I have a small anecdote related to the above crashed-saucer tale. One day in the mid-1980s, when CUFOS' office was still in Glenview, Illinois, and (the now-deceased) Sherman Larsen ran it, someone from Gleason's office called to inquire about the status of JG's IUR subscription. After digging out the requested information, Larsen couldn't resist asking about the story that Nixon had shown Gleason alien bodies. Gleason's spokesman said that was a fiction that an ex-wife had made up to get attention and sell her book. On the other hand, one of Gleason's biographers claims that it was probably a tall tale JG concocted to tell his wife, to explain away a tryst with one of his girl friends. For a number of reasons, I find the story pretty hard to believe. It seems highly unlikely that even a President could bring an unauthorized civilian into a secure site holding secrets of the alleged magnitude. Since no independent evidence seems to exist and the source of the anecdote is of uncertain reliability, the story should be regarded, in my judgment, as little more than yet more saucer folklore. Jerry Clark
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