From: Josh Goldstein <firstname.lastname@example.org> Date: Tue, 01 Oct 2002 02:21:56 +0200 Fwd Date: Tue, 01 Oct 2002 01:26:13 -0400 Subject: ARAS & Alien Symbols To Dick Hall and fellow Listerions, Dick, you wanted to see visual representations of the types of collective unconcious archetypes. I tried to find a site with a variety of symbols printed on the web but did not find what I was looking for. Rather than further pursuing that path I felt it might be easiest for you to go back to the link on ARAS I had in my last post and that is also located below this message. If you look in the picture gallery you will see some examples. Look at the image on the ARAS home page, listen to what that image brings up in you. What does it symbolize, represent in you? What feelings does that image bring up? Click on resources at the top of the page. Look at that pottery statue. What does that represent to you? What does it represent to the culture that created this statue image? Draw a circle. Look at it. What does it bring up in you? To Jung, a circle symbolizes completion, wholeness, connection. I'm not suggesting that the round shape of flying saucers is only a symbol from our unconsciousness. Look at a mandala. What does that represent? What does the symbol of an angel represent from our unconsciousness? Think of the word "summit". What does that symbolize? Solidity, security, initiation, ascension, transcendence? The meeting of God and man? In history an altar was a sacrificial stone placed high from the ground. What does sacrifice symbolize? What does blood symbolize? What does the heart symbolize? What did Wagner symbolize? What imagery did he use? What does it evoke in all people? It is fascinating that all humans share the same collective unconscious throughout all cultures that has been represented in many forms of symbology. Two cultures totally out of touch with each other may have vastly different appearing symbols. However, they are their particular culture's representations of what we share in common. Many lives and deaths are caused by what symbols represent. At similar stages of their culture, those images may be ones developed individually by that culture for a particular purpose. Yet at various times in its history the culture would bring out new images that were different examples of the past symbol and wiould be used for the same purposes. Our dreams are living examples of the psyche using its archetypes. It is a fascinating field that spans many disciplines; psychology, mythology, art, history, anthropology, archaeology, religious studies, etc. Unfortunately a pseudo science, spiritual, mystical, metaphysical, and New Age fringe who are not academically educated are primarily speculating, and publish their work. If you really want to learn more in this field there is a huge body of scholarly work. I have not pursued any particular work in the area of alien abduction other than taking reports and referring those persons to the proper people. As I said yesterday, for a long time I have been curious about what images from experiencers might represent. I'm not trying to state whether any symbols reported may or may not have been related by aliens through the experiencer. I don't know what is the truth behind the abduction scenario. It would be fascinating if aliens represented their symbols from the same or a different collective unconsciousness than humans. I also have wondered what those symbols represent to a Jungian psychiatrist or psychologist and to other psychological approaches. The mention on the List of the experiencer symbols, and in particular John Velez's report of how he reacted when he was shown some of those symbols. made an idea on my back burner jump towards the front. I was waiting for my time to ease up and I wanted to make an assesment of the abducrion field to get an idea of what psychologists or psychiatrists who have worked with abductees (not abduction researchers, counselors, or hypnotherapists) have reported. Like John, I think some abduction researchers, use of regressive hypnosis, and lack of training have harmed some abductees. I would want to see what properly licensed professionals have reported about their work on experiencers. I also want to research what those professionals believe may or may not be happening with those experiencers and their reports. I was going to start that study in the near future. I was going to research what is available to me before asking for assistance from this list. Now that I mentioned it, I welcome anything along that line. I would like to see a body of the proper professionals examine the alien symbols and reports of experiencers to interpret their deeper levels of significance. I would start with professionals in the symbology of the psyche. Dick, in my opinion I would like you, Budd, and anyone else to first have the symbols and cases you have analyzed by the types of professionals I have mentioned. Perhaps ARAS would be a good place to start. I would prefer that someone who has worked with experiencers contact them to see if they have an interest in receiving preliminary documentation to examine whether they would want to get involved in such a study. If you look on the resources page of the ARAS site you will also find information on the various Jung Institutes and centers. Once again, I am not trying to say that I believe flying saucers and alien abductions are only self generated products of the psyche. Josh http://www.aras.org/ Volume I Volume II About ARAS History of ARAS Picture Gallery Resources The Archive for Research in Archetypal Symbolism
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