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Re: Abductions & Ufology

From: Richard Hall <hallrichard99.nul>
Date: Sat, 30 Nov 2002 21:49:03 +0000
Archived: Sat, 30 Nov 2002 11:02:33 -0500
Subject: Re: Abductions & Ufology


>From: Greg Sandow <greg.nul>
>To: <ufoupdates.nul>
>Date: Sun, 24 Nov 2002 16:58:08 -0500
>Subject: Re: Abductions & Ufology

>>From: Jan Aldrich <project1947.nul>
>>To: UFO UpDates - Toronto <ufoupdates.nul>
>>Subject: Re: Abductions & Ufology
>>Date: Thu, 21 Nov 2002 8:57:44 -0500

>>Greg, here is the problem right here. You snipped out everything else
>>I said and aimed at this one item.

>Jan, I'm happy to address all your points. The first was by far
>the strongest, in my view, and so I used it to represent
>everything you said, especially since my answers to all of them
>are somewhat the same.I should have said this, though, to
>explain why I only answered your first point. You're entirely
>justified in asking for a fuller response.

>So here goes:

<snip>

>Plus, as Dick Hall pointed out, many therapists have worked with
>abductees. Really a large number. Some abduction researchers,
>moreover, _are_ therapists. And so are some abductees. I
>personally know one abductee who's a therapist, and three non-
>abductee therapists who've worked with abductees. One of these
>three is a recently minted MSW, though a very smart, grounded
>guy; the other two are senior professionals. It's worth noting,
>too, that there's a therapist in Washington, DC - Dick, help me
>here - who works with abductees. He's not an abduction
>researcher, and I don't know what he believes about the
>abduction phenomenon. What he does, as I've read, is help
>abductees in a non-judgmental way with whatever anxiety their
>abduction memories may cause.

Greg,

I suspect you are referring to David Ruxer, PhD psychologist in
Fairfax, Virginia. He is one of those who encountered abductees
in his practice and was puzzled about the phenomenon. Several
years ago (I haven't been in contact with him recently) David
asked me to address his psychology group, and I had the
undivided attention of about 10 practicing psychologists. David
also attended one of our support groups as an observer, and
afterwards offered some excellent advice on how to proceed. From
time to time I have talked with local area abductees who have
sought psychotherapy from David (and/or a couple of other
members of his group) and they unanimously praised him for (a)
his practical help, and (b) his nonjudgmental approach.

>If a large number of abductees had mental problems, you'd think
>these many therapists would - during more than 30 years of
>abduction research - have detected them. So, Jan, when you say

>>Quite
>>honestly, I don't know how many people are like this woman,  but my
>>limited  experience indicate that there are significant numbers like
>>that not the majority, not a huge minority but still significant.

>your experience really _is_ limited. You're joining a discussion
>that's been going on for quite a while. If you think the
>published studies aren't adequate, I'd be interested to know
>why. Likewise, if you think the therapists who've work with
>abductees aren't qualified, or have done a bad job, I'd be happy
>to know your reasons.

Out of all the abductees I have worked with (something like 150;
I've lost count), two were psychological basket cases, and even
there it was not clear whether their condition was the cause or
effect of an "abduction." More to the point, a very high
percentage clearly were entirely sane and grounded individuals,
deeply upset and perplexed by their experiences.


 - Dick


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