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Re: Russian 'Crash Footage'?

From: Gildas Bourdais <gbourdais.nul>
Date: Fri, 29 Nov 2002 12:32:43 +0100
Archived: Fri, 29 Nov 2002 10:40:00 -0500
Subject: Re: Russian 'Crash Footage'?


>From: Steven Kaeser <steve.nul>
>To: <ufoupdates.nul>
>Date: Thu, 28 Nov 2002 21:34:50 -0500
>Subject: Re: Russian 'Crash Footage'?

>>From: Trevor Seguin <dragko.nul>
>>To: ufoupdates.nul
>>Date: Thu, 28 Nov 2002 10:45:04 -0800
>>Subject: Re: Russian 'Crash Footage'?

>>If these images are the ones you are talking about I believe
>>this VHS is the same special. I also found a DVD out of HK but
>>those are mostly bootlegs.

>>http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B0000399XH/qid=1038508542/sr=8-2/ref=sr_8_2/102-6748565-7116919?v=glance&s=video&n=507846

>>This is the Official website

>>http://alt.tnt.tv/kgb/frame_index.html

>>There are some short clips one of which shows what looks like
>>KGB/Government surrounding quite the convincing disk. And
>>KGB/Medical officials disecting a section of a small body with
>>exposed rib cage.

>Good links, thanks. I didn't even check. You are correct about
>the availability of the show, which I purchased on DVD more than
>a year ago. It should be noted that I purchased it for its
>entertainment value.

>To be honest, I'm astonished that the TNT site is still active,
>since the program aired in 1998. One segment mentions a
>newspaper in Russia that mentions one particular incident on the
>front page, but when the actual newspaper was obtained from an
>archive, it didn't resemble the page shown on the program at
>all.

>It would be most interesting to learn the provenance of the
>footage that is shown of a saucer shaped craft half buried in
>the ground at a purported impact site. While I believe this is a
>faked incident, it allegedly involved Russian military vehicles
>that weren't readily available, and the uniforms appear to be
>correct for the period portrayed.

>I recall that one person on this list in late 1998, who was very
>familiar with Russia, was quite involved in trying to verify
>this program and learned of some major flaws that the pointed
>out on his web page. Unfortunately, the production company that
>was involved threatened him with a law suit, and being unfamilar
>with US law he quickly took the site down and ceased posting to
>the list.

>Of course, this is only really interesting from an historical
>perspective.


To Trevor, Steven and the List ,

I am also very surprised that such a question is still asked.
That video has been completely exposed as a hoax by Boris Shurinov,
at his web site - in English:

http://borshurinov.narod.ru/ufindex.htm

I sent him a copy of the video and he made a thorough inquiry
in Moscow.

He found that the UFO sequences had been shot by an American
team: the UFO in the surroundings of Moscow; the autopsy in a
room at the school of medecine in Moscow !

He met with the Russian woman in the Moscow film studios who
was production assistant for them.

It was supposed to be a SF movie.

She provided the extras, such as the soldiers in the field.

The UFO was made of a light plastic material which gave them a
lot of trouble because it was blown by the wind!

The autopsy was shot with students, etc.

He also got the names of the American team.

I have another source.

I met, at the annual San Marino symposium in Italy, the American
ufologist Alex Chionetti who is a film producer. He told me, in
the presence of his friend Antonio Huneeus, that he knew a
member of that team in Los Angeles.

I think I said all that already on UFO UpDates.

Kal Korff claimed that he had obtained a fragment of that UFO,
and that he was going to have it analysed, and that he would
publish the results.

He never did. I asked him how he got that debris, but he never
answered.

Gildas Bourdais


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