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Re: Dr. Mack On NY Times Article

From: Larry Hatch <larry.nul>
Date: Wed, 27 Nov 2002 01:39:44 -0800
Archived: Tue, 26 Nov 2002 09:54:15 -0500
Subject: Re: Dr. Mack On NY Times Article

>From: Richard Hall <hallrichard99.nul>
>To: ufoupdates.nul
>Date: Tue, 26 Nov 2002 23:04:12 +0000
>Subject: Re: Dr. Mack On NY Times Article

>>From: Will Bueche <info.nul>
>>To: <ufoupdates.nul>
>>Date: Tue, 26 Nov 2002 16:28:11 -0500
>>Subject: Dr. Mack On NY Times Article

>>Dr. John Mack would like everyone to know that the
>>paraphrasing of his position in the following paragraph
>>from last Sunday's New York Times --

>>which is reprinted at Dr. Mack's site for your convenience:


>>-- is not entirely perfect.


>>>"There are all sorts of subtleties that are very hard to talk
>>>to a reporter about," he said. "We are all so literal. I
>>>believe these people have encountered some kind of intelligence
>>>by an opening of consciousness to a whole other level of
>>>reality. Philosophers are starting to think of a third zone -
>>>some kind of intermediate reality - that enters this reality.
>>>They are having an experience that is experientially real but
>>>the beings are not necessarily physically or materially real."

>>We thought the article was very good.

>Sorry Will, but this sounds all too much like political spin

>Can John Mack speak plainly to the issues, or not?

>Does he think we are dealing with alien abductors or not?

>And don't try to snow me with "Philosophers are starting to
>think of a third zone(?)".

>I have a degree in philopsophy and cannot identify with
>experiences that are "experientially real but the beings are
>not necessarily physically or materially real."

>Just exactly what the hell does that mean? It sounds like
>total, undefined gobbledegook to me!

Hello Dick:

It sounds like totally typical John Mack to me. I wasn't far
into his noted book 'Abduction' before my head (and stomach)
started to spin.

A Third Zone of reality? What's the second one?

What I see is a man who cannot bring himself to say that (some)
people are simply seeing things that aren't there.

What's more, I suspect that Mack believes his own BS!  Hey!
Here's your brain. (crack... splat... splutter...) Here's your
brain on Mack.

None of this should reflect on cases which may have a genuine,
if unproven physical (objective) basis, I'm not addressing that
now. What I see is a good, intelligent man, who has lapsed into
mysticism to the point where reality and fantasy intrude on one
another like two flavors of melting ice cream. This just revolts

Best wishes

- Larry Hatch

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