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Re: Dr. Mack On NY Times Article

From: Larry Hatch <larry.nul>
Date: Wed, 27 Nov 2002 01:39:44 -0800
Archived: Tue, 26 Nov 2002 09:54:15 -0500
Subject: Re: Dr. Mack On NY Times Article


>From: Richard Hall <hallrichard99.nul>
>To: ufoupdates.nul
>Date: Tue, 26 Nov 2002 23:04:12 +0000
>Subject: Re: Dr. Mack On NY Times Article

>>From: Will Bueche <info.nul>
>>To: <ufoupdates.nul>
>>Date: Tue, 26 Nov 2002 16:28:11 -0500
>>Subject: Dr. Mack On NY Times Article

>>Dr. John Mack would like everyone to know that the
>>paraphrasing of his position in the following paragraph
>>from last Sunday's New York Times --

>>which is reprinted at Dr. Mack's site for your convenience:

>>http://www.centerchange.org/passport/nyt112402.html

>>-- is not entirely perfect.

<snip>

>>>"There are all sorts of subtleties that are very hard to talk
>>>to a reporter about," he said. "We are all so literal. I
>>>believe these people have encountered some kind of intelligence
>>>by an opening of consciousness to a whole other level of
>>>reality. Philosophers are starting to think of a third zone -
>>>some kind of intermediate reality - that enters this reality.
>>>They are having an experience that is experientially real but
>>>the beings are not necessarily physically or materially real."

>>We thought the article was very good.

>Sorry Will, but this sounds all too much like political spin
>control.

>Can John Mack speak plainly to the issues, or not?

>Does he think we are dealing with alien abductors or not?

>And don't try to snow me with "Philosophers are starting to
>think of a third zone(?)".

>I have a degree in philopsophy and cannot identify with
>experiences that are "experientially real but the beings are
>not necessarily physically or materially real."

>Just exactly what the hell does that mean? It sounds like
>total, undefined gobbledegook to me!


Hello Dick:

It sounds like totally typical John Mack to me. I wasn't far
into his noted book 'Abduction' before my head (and stomach)
started to spin.

A Third Zone of reality? What's the second one?

What I see is a man who cannot bring himself to say that (some)
people are simply seeing things that aren't there.

What's more, I suspect that Mack believes his own BS!  Hey!
Here's your brain. (crack... splat... splutter...) Here's your
brain on Mack.

None of this should reflect on cases which may have a genuine,
if unproven physical (objective) basis, I'm not addressing that
now. What I see is a good, intelligent man, who has lapsed into
mysticism to the point where reality and fantasy intrude on one
another like two flavors of melting ice cream. This just revolts
me.


Best wishes

- Larry Hatch


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