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Re: Dr. Mack On NY Times Article

From: Richard Hall <hallrichard99.nul>
Date: Tue, 26 Nov 2002 23:04:12 +0000
Archived: Tue, 26 Nov 2002 09:49:35 -0500
Subject: Re: Dr. Mack On NY Times Article


>From: Will Bueche - Center for Psychology & Social Change <info.nul>
>To: <ufoupdates.nul>
>Date: Tue, 26 Nov 2002 16:28:11 -0500
>Subject: Dr. Mack On NY Times Article

>Dr. John Mack would like everyone to know that the paraphrasing of his
>position in the following paragraph from last Sunday's New York Times --

>which is reprinted at Dr. Mack's site for your convenience:

>http://www.centerchange.org/passport/nyt112402.html

>-- is not entirely perfect. He's had a few calls asking what he meant.
>The paragraph in question comes near the end of the article:

>>Dr. Mack said he no longer refers to people [as] "abductees,"
>>calling them "experiencers" instead. He said he did not doubt
>>that the people he studied had had some kind of encounter with
>>another form of intelligence, but he did not now believe that
>>they were abducted by alien beings and taken into spaceships.

>Had Dr. Mack been the one to paraphrase himself he'd have
>phrased it a little differently, perhaps changing it to "he did
>not now believe that they were _SIMPLY_ being abducted by alien
>beings and taken into spaceships."

>For lack of a qualifier, the meaning may have come out wrong.
>The paragraph that follows that one may have been enough of an
>explanation for most people to pick up on what he meant, but
>just in case it was not enough for you, he wanted you to know.
>Thanks.

>>"There are all sorts of subtleties that are very hard to talk
>>to a reporter about," he said. "We are all so literal. I
>>believe these people have encountered some kind of intelligence
>>by an opening of consciousness to a whole other level of
>>reality. Philosophers are starting to think of a third zone -
>>some kind of intermediate reality - that enters this reality.
>>They are having an experience that is experientially real but
>>the beings are not necessarily physically or materially real."

>We thought the article was very good.

>Will Bueche

>Center for Psychology & Social Change
>http://www.centerchange.org

Sorry Will, but this sounds all too much like political spin
control.

Can John Mack speak plainly to the issues, or not?

Does he think we are dealing with alien abductors or not?

And don't try to snow me with "Philosophers are starting to
think of a third zone(?)".

I have a degree in philopsophy and cannot identify with
experineces that are "experientially real but the beings are not
necessarily physically or materially real."

Just exactly what the hell does that mean? It sounds like total,
undefined gobbledegook to me!


 - Dick


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