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Re: 'Path of the Skinwalker' Knapp On NIDS

From: Robert Gates <RGates8254.nul>
Date: Sun, 24 Nov 2002 23:34:16 EST
Archived: Mon, 25 Nov 2002 08:58:27 -0500
Subject: Re: 'Path of the Skinwalker' Knapp On NIDS

>From: Josh Goldstein <clearlight.nul-online.de>
>To: UFO UpDates - Toronto <ufoupdates.nul>
>Date: Sat, 23 Nov 2002 06:40:02 +0100
>Subject: Re: 'Path of the Skinwalker' Knapp On NIDS

>>From: Grant Cameron <presidentialufo.nul>
>>To: ufoupdates.nul
>>Date: Thu, 21 Nov 2002 19:12:59 -0500
>>Subject: 'Path of the Skinwalker' Knapp On NIDS

>>'Path of the Skinwalker'

>>A new investigative report from George Knapp, who became famous
>>for introducing the world to the story of Bob Lazar in the late

>>This time Knapp looks at the now famous "paranormal" ranch
>>bought by millionaire Bob Bigelow in northern Utah.

>>Source: The Las Vegas Mercury


>>Thursday, November 21, 2002
>>Copyright Las Vegas Mercury

>>Cover story: 'Path of the Skinwalker'

>>A small ranch in northern Utah may be the strangest place on
>>by George Knapp


>>Warning to paranormal enthusiasts: Do not travel to the ranch.
>>You are not welcome there. It is private property and the people
>>who live on or near it don't want to be hassled by curiosity
>>seekers or the media. What's more, the level of unexplained
>>phenomena has taken a steady nosedive over the past several
>>months, so chances are you wouldn't see anything even if you
>>could get on the property.

>Grant and fellow Listerions,

>I just finished reading the above quoted article and I did not
>want to burden our beloved EBK with reposting chapter one of
>this suspenseful, sensational story. I quoted the above warning
>from after the story while wondering, since the word is out,
>whether the paranormal posse and hordes of curiosity seekers
>will descend on the ranch, forcing the above warning to be
>posted on the road leading to this ranch and its neighbors with
>large block lettering proclaiming DEADLY FORCE AUTHORIZED! ala
>Area 51.

Hi Josh, listers,

The 'Ranch' is on private property and Knapp got permission to
be on it and do a story about it. I would expect that after
Knapp's story appeared, you in fact would get the "curiosity
seekers " who would do just about anything to get on the grounds
of the ranch. If you own the ranch and somebody gets killed,
injured on the ranch, it is likely they or the family are going
to sue, and blather about why didn't anybody post warnings, why
didn't anybody post signs on the property etc., etc., etc.

>From a liability stand point the signs have to be in place.


>But this is the mysterious Gorman ranch. I remember about the
>first mutes there and I remember being excited that it was
>purchased by Bigelow for the serious study of muteness. Instead
>of me learning more about cattle mutilations, a cloud of
>muteness withheld research data and caused people to wonder
>about the mysterious shroud of secrecy of the ranch and the
>newly formed NIDS.

As I recall the people who sold it were the Sherman's, and what
they did is buy a place down the road 5-10 miles, where
apparently their lives have gotten back to normal. I would make
the observation that being a caretaker and only being on the
ranch when you needed to be, versus having your family 'living'
on the ranch and having all the strange things happen to you on
a constant basis would be two different things all together.

>What am I to make of George Knapp's story? It is beyond my
>imagination that what he claims is plaguing that ranch and being
>studied by Colm Kelleher. Is there anything _not_ seen there?

Apparently the lid is being lifted and we will get some
information as to what NIDS in fact found... in next week's
installment. First the history, then the meat... blah, blah.

Kind of like Sci-fi Roswell. First the history, then another
special as to what the artifacts actually were...stay tuned.

>Of course, if true, Gorman made two serious mistakes.

>#1 = Learn the history. I learned from buying mountain property
>in California that if I were shown a property that interested me
>to not only check the property records but to ask the neighbors
>if they had anything that they wanted to say regarding the
>property. I would certainly ask a lot of questions if the
>property I was shown had all kinds of extra bolt locks and
>fortifications that it seemed to need for security. Something is
>wrong with this picture.

This thought would be lost on many people, who might be inclined
to dismiss it as paranoia on the part of the people you are
buying it from rather then weird wolves and creatures,
diminsional type doorways, and UFOs.

>#2 = Go while the going is good. The Gormans allegedly suffered
>on that property. Along comes Bigelow who offers to buy the land
>and gets the Gorman family to stay at the property as caretakers
>of suffering more of the same horrors?

As I mentioned earlier the family is not actually living on the
ranch but in fact live down the road somewhere. Dan Sherman just
goes back to do his job. As I understand it Dan and his family
signed Non Disclosure Agreements with NIDS/Bigelow of their own
free will and choice so they are not able to talk about



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