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Re: Roswell Hhad Victims?

From: David Rudiak <DRudiak.nul>
Date: Sat, 23 Nov 2002 02:10:35 -0800
Archived: Sat, 23 Nov 2002 08:46:15 -0500
Subject: Re: Roswell Hhad Victims?

>From: Trevor Seguin <dragko.nul>
>To: <ufoupdates.nul>
>Date: Fri, 22 Nov 2002 15:10:45 -0800
>Subject: Roswell Had Victims?

>Source: The Santa Fe New Mexican


>Roswell Incident Had Victims, Program Says

>ALBUQUERQUE - While he told the world that a weather balloon
>went down in Roswell, an Army general had in his hand a memo
>telling Pentagon brass of a UFO crash with "victims," according
>to a new television documentary.

>A computer analysis of that memo, held by Brig. Gen. Roger Ramey
>during a July 1947 press briefing, is the "smoking gun" of the
>Roswell Incident, researchers say in the documentary being
>broadcast today on the Sci-Fi Channel.

>Using a digital photo scanner to enlarge and enhance words
>printed on the folded piece of paper Ramey held, and using
>another computer program to select the most likely words,
>researcher David Rudiak, who has a Ph.D. in physics from UC
>Berkeley, found two key phrases: "the victims of the wreck" and
>"in the 'disc' they will ship."


Just for the record, I want to clear up some misunderstandings
in this story. When interviewed I said that I had a bachelors in
physics and a doctorate of optometry from UC Berkeley.
Unfortunately, the two degrees got merged somewhere down the
line when the story was written into my having a doctorate or
Ph.D. in physics from U.C. Berkeley. Believe me, I never said
that and have never said that. The last thing I want to do in
this field is be accused of inflating my resume'.

The second slightly confusing thing is the statement that I used
a computer program to select the most likely words. What I used
was a search engine at www.onelook.com that searched for
possible word matches in the English language when a few
possible letters were plugged in and wildcards used for the
other letters. This search engine looks through hundreds of on-
 line dictionaries and lexicons. The computer however does not
pick the most likely match. That's left to the human brain using
context, grammar, and some common sense.

The example I gave was what matches do you get for the "VICTIMS"
word if you plug in "V I _ _ I _ S"and do the search? (These
letters, I felt, were all very probable, whereas other letters
in the word were more ambiguous.)  It turns out there are only 7
VIRGINS, and finally VICTIMS.

The only one of these matches that makes any possible sense in
the context of a military telegram and Roswell is the word
"VICTIMS". That is, unless you want to believe that Ramey was
somehow dealing with a crisis in the capital of Lithuania
(VILNIUS), or was dealing with something involving glass-making
(VITRICS), or was involved somehow with the bacteria that causes
cholera (VIBRIOS), or something lining the guts (VILLI'S), or
maybe music (VIOLINS), or sex (VIRGINS). [VILLI'S is also the
wrong part of speech given the grammatical context.]

The point of this illustration is that the possible choices for
a word are not infinite and interpreting this message isn't an
exercise equivalent to "seeing faces in the clouds." Use of
various forms of context weeds out a vast majority of possible
word matches in most cases.

This is similar in some ways to solving a crossword puzzle. You
have words of fixed length. Further, based on what else you have
filled in, you may think you know a few letters of the word.
Then doing a word search will bring back possible matches with
letters in those positions and words of the proper length. But
you need to use the context of the clue provided for the word to
decide which of any of these matches would actually work.

There will be cases where none of them seem to work, and that
might be a red flag that one of your other cross-words is wrong
and providing a wrong search letter. That certainly happened to
me on a number of occasions. None of the word matches seemed to
make sense. So then I might take another look at the letters and
try other combinations of similar letters that might also be

I hope this clarifies this aspect of my methodology a little bit

The important part of the story, which is correct, is the two
key phrases in the message: "the victims of the wreck" and "in
the 'disc' they will ship." These totally demolish any balloon
plus "crash dummy" explanation for the crash. Roswell did indeed
have "victims", not "crash dummies from the future." And the
crash object was indesputably being called a "disc" with
something of great value in the interior deserving of air
shipment. Neither weather balloons nor radar target balsa kites
had any interiors with anything to be shipped.

David (Doctor of Optometry, not Physics) Rudiak

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