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Roswell Had Victims?

From: Trevor Seguin <dragko.nul>
Date: Fri, 22 Nov 2002 15:10:45 -0800
Archived: Fri, 22 Nov 2002 08:27:57 -0500
Subject: Roswell Had Victims?

Hello all,

Haven't seen this here so I  thought I would submit it! I, here
in Canada, am not going to get a chance to see the special so I
am depending on the Listers to fill me in!

This is unconfirmed and I would love the details!


Source: The Santa Fe New Mexican


Roswell Incident Had Victims, Program Says

ALBUQUERQUE - While he told the world that a weather balloon
went down in Roswell, an Army general had in his hand a memo
telling Pentagon brass of a UFO crash with "victims," according
to a new television documentary.

A computer analysis of that memo, held by Brig. Gen. Roger Ramey
during a July 1947 press briefing, is the "smoking gun" of the
Roswell Incident, researchers say in the documentary being
broadcast today on the Sci-Fi Channel.

Using a digital photo scanner to enlarge and enhance words
printed on the folded piece of paper Ramey held, and using
another computer program to select the most likely words,
researcher David Rudiak, who has a Ph.D. in physics from UC
Berkeley, found two key phrases: "the victims of the wreck" and
"in the 'disc' they will ship."

With the textual study plus University of New Mexico
archaeological findings from one of three alleged UFO crash
sites, science fiction seeks to close the gap with fact,
producers say.

A photograph taken July 8, 1947, in Fort Worth, Texas, by James
Bond Johnson of the Fort Worth Star-Telegram shows Ramey
clutching a communique to Washington, D.C., while he displays a
deflated weather balloon just hours after other Army officers in
Roswell had reported a UFO crash.

It was one of a series of inconsistent military reports about
the incident, which has become part of American mythology.

"Unless national security is at stake, there is absolutely no
reason to keep this information from the public," said Thomas
Vitale, a Sci-Fi Channel vice president. "Whatever crashed at
Roswell, let us know what the truth is."

The Air Force had responded to a 1994 call from the late U.S.
Rep. Steve Schiff, R-N.M., by saying it had no information on
the Roswell Incident. Schiff, an Air Force reserve judge
advocate general's officer, then took his query to the General
Accounting Office, the investigative arm of Congress.

In 1997, the Air Force acknowledged the weather balloon had been
a false cover story, but a new story also was called into
question. In a report written by Lt. William McAndrew, the Air
Force suggested reports of alien bodies in the wreckage must
have originated because of a crash-test program in which
mannequins were dropped from balloons. The mannequins did not
come close to matching 1947 descriptions of alien bodies, and
the crash-test program was not introduced until 1953, Rudiak

Sci-Fi, guided by longtime Roswell UFO researchers Tom Carey and
Don Schmitt, commissioned William Doleman, an archaeologist with
UNM's Maxwell Museum of Anthropology, to excavate the alleged
initial crash contact point on the ranch where the late Mack
Brazel worked as foreman.

Doleman said he knows little about the Roswell Incident but
agreed to excavate the site using purely scientific methods
because it is "culturally significant" and because so much of
what is circulated about the Roswell crash landing is based on
hearsay. What was needed, Doleman said, was physical evidence.

"So this project is a very bold step by people who claim to know
what happened and where it happened," Doleman said. "What makes
it bold is they were willing to go out there and look for
physical evidence."

Details of the excavation are being kept confidential until
after today's premiere. But Doleman said he agrees "that
obviously something happened in July 1947 in southeastern New
Mexico." After his work there, though, he said, "I'm still
uncertain" about UFOs and alien beings.

The documentary will introduce some witnesses who have not been
heard from publicly before, attesting to the existence of alien
bodies in the wreckage of the "flying disc," Carey said by phone
from his home in Pennsylvania.

"This is where we loaded the bodies," he quotes one New Mexico
witness, Robert Slusher, as saying. Slusher, among those
appearing in the documentary, was part of a B-29 crew that he
said loaded bodies up through the plane's bomb bay at the
Roswell Army Airfield.

Three victims were supposedly recovered from the final crash
site, and a team of archaeologists, coincidentally, were in the
area doing research on ancient Indians at the time, Carey said.
Among them was Curry Holden, an archaeologist from Texas Tech in
Lubbock, whom Carey located in 1992.

"Curry Holden said he saw everything - the craft and the
bodies," Carey said. Holden died a few months later.

Carey, an investigator for a private corporation, said he
started looking into Roswell 12 years ago "as a hobby."

But it became more than that. And now, he said, he and Schmitt
are in a race against time, as witnesses become scarcer.


Trevor Seguin

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