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Re: Anyone Up To A Challenge?

From: Jim Speiser <jimspeiser.nul>
Date: Fri, 22 Nov 2002 13:10:41 -0700
Archived: Fri, 22 Nov 2002 08:26:34 -0500
Subject: Re: Anyone Up To A Challenge?

>From: Mac Tonnies <macbot.nul>
>To: UFO UpDates - Toronto <ufoupdates.nul>
>Date: Thu, 21 Nov 2002 14:55:45 -0800 (PST)
>Subject: Re: Anyone Up To A Challenge?

>>From: Jim Speiser <jimspeiser.nul>
>>To: <ufoupdates.nul>
>>Subject: Re: Anyone Up To A Challenge?
>>Date: Thu, 21 Nov 2002 11:16:00 -0700


>>>These Christian UFO debunkers are a bizarre lot. They've got no
>>>problem at all with the downright supernatural, but go into a
>>>frenzy at the notion of the merely unusual or exotic.

>>I once met a Christian UFO debunker at a CSICOP conference (yes,
>>I've been to three). He was not, however, bizarre, nor was he a

>I've no doubt that Kemble was a sincere person. But I think the
>critical sentence here is: "His interest in the subject was that
>he did not want to see the 'true paranormal experience of the
>universe itself God's creation' get lost in a flurry of
>distracting false claims."

>What precisely is he saying? That UFOs are nonsense and must be
>done away with because they "interfere" with "God's creation" as
>he knows it? That's exactly the sort of shizophrenic attitude
>I've noticed among Christian debunker-zealots.

>You don't have to be a ranting nut to display symptoms
>of ufological cognitive dissonance.

In answer, allow me to post a link to a more-or-less formal
debate on the subject I initiated back in 1987 on the old
ParaNet system, in which Lucien took part:


This will, I think, more correctly display his viewpoint. (And
please don't tear me a new one for _my_ viewpoint as expressed
therein; I have mellowed a bit over the years....)


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