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Re: Abductions & Ufology

From: Jan Aldrich <project1947.nul>
Date: Thu, 21 Nov 2002 17:18:14 -0500
Archived: Fri, 22 Nov 2002 08:14:57 -0500
Subject: Re: Abductions & Ufology

>From: John Velez <johnvelez.aic.nul>
>To: ufoupdates.nul
>Date: Thu, 21 Nov 2002 01:27:24 -0500
>Subject: Re: Abductions & Ufology

>>From: Jan Aldrich <project1947.nul>
>>To: UFO UpDates - Toronto <ufoupdates.nul>
>>Date: Wed, 20 Nov 2002 10:58:53 -0500
>>Subject: Re: Abductions & Ufology

>>>From: John Velez <johnvelez.aic.nul>
>>>To: ufoupdates.nul
>>>Date: Tue, 19 Nov 2002 22:32:16 -0500
>>>Subject: Re: Media & 'Truth'

>>>>From: Jan Aldrich <project1947.nul>
>>>>To: UFO UpDates - Toronto <ufoupdates.nul>
>>>>Date: Tue, 19 Nov 2002 17:33:7 -0500
>>>>Subject: Re: Media & 'Truth'


>>>>Not quite on your topic about media, but in the ball park:

>>>>John, you will probably never talk to me again or answer me
>>>>again after this, but I think abductions are at the end of the
>>>>line of that which should be considered in ufology.

>>>Ok, so we disagree. I think UFOs and abductions explain each
>>>other. But that's just speculation on my part. You're entitled
>>>to your opinion Jan.

>>John, this, of course was not serious. But I am going into your
>>area of expertise and telling you that I don't think it should
>>be the center piece of the ufology. I know you probably disagree

>No, not a 'center piece' but as being part and parcel to the UFO
>phenomenon. UFOs _are_ a part of abduction reports. As such,
>they demand equal consideration.

>Hey man, I don't pretend to have the answers to any of the
>questions you are posing here. I'll try to address a couple of
>them with my own thoughts/feelings about it. What I do know is;
>in 1977 I was standing about 50 to 60 linear feet away from a
>silent, glowing, football shaped object that was hovering no
>more that 45 to 50 feet off the ground. (Just over the roof of a
>three story apartment house in Brooklyn.)

>If I had picked up a stone and thrown it, I could have hit it
>easily and I would have heard the 'ping' from the impact from
>where I was standing. If I wasn't so scared shitless I might
>have tried it.

>That incident was followed by a whole night of missing time that
>culminated in a visit to an emergency room where I had two
>physicians, one of which was an ear, nose, and throat specialist
>tell me that they saw evidence of 'surgery' having been
>performed inside my head. (Sinuses)

>That's not "I had a dream" kind of crap. I was left bleeding,
>with a swollen eye, and more confused and disoriented than I
>have ever felt in my entire life. It was real and physical and
>it left behind (painful) evidence. My wife and my kids have
>demonstrated highly unusual physical manifestations over the
>years. This is no 'ify' thing for me Jan. It's real and it
>concerns me deeply. My family is affected. That's the bottom
>line for me. And I'm not alone.

>I have 'stuff' like that in my life that goes back to childhood
>Jan. Involving multiple witness UFO sightings, non-human beings,
>being carried out my house in the middle of the night, strange
>flying/floating lights 'inside' the house that others have
>witnessed along with me, on and on like that.

>That, is all I "know" Jan. I can only speak for/answer for me.
>Not for anybody else. No one can. I am one man. One case. I
>couldn't speak for anybody else's case if I wanted to. If I were
>to try to deny it all to myself I would be denying my Life. I
>would have to intentionally lie to myself! I can't do that. I'm
>not put together that way.

>So what am I left with? I'm standing here talking to you. One on
>one. It's all I have and it's all I can do. I hope that by
>allowing you to get to know me over a period of years, by
>exposing my self, my personality, my experiences and my inner
>workings that (at some point) you will realize that 'hey, John
>isn't a psycho or a chronic liar. 'Maybe' I have prejudged other
>abductees/abduction cases.

>If that much can be accomplished with a few people then my time
>here has been well spent. How many of the cases you mentioned
>are 'legit?' I don't know. But I'd sure as hell like to. We're
>not going to get anywhere if bright and thoughtful individuals
>like yourself retreat into denial and negation solely because
>you have focused on the flurry of detail at the expense of
>missing the central core of material that is _consistent_ in
>many cases.

>I'm not here to 'sell' anybody anything. I tell my story, share
>things I've learned or picked up along the way and I let people
>make up their own minds about it. We can go at this for months
>Jan. Like I said, I don't have any answers for you. You'll have
>to work it all out for yourself just like I was forced to do.

>The only real difference between me and you is, you have a
>choice. I don't. I'm stuck with a series of events in my life
>that I cannot simply 'wish away' and that you cannot 'explain

>So here we are.

Thanks, John, for the compelling testimony. You know I feel very
bad for bringing this up at all, but I have a lot of problems
here, especially since my heavy reading concerning child sexual
abuse. It seemed important to get some kind of discussion going.

One comment, we think, that the abductors are from
civilization(s) which are technologically very advanced. Read
some of the demonstrations they put on in Fowler's books. Now
here they are in your case doing some kind of bum medical
procedure. Are these third rate civilizations who just happen to
learned to travel across space, or was that procedure done by
a 9th grade exobiology class on Rigel? This is not an attempt
at humor!

I don't have answers, just a lot of smart-ass questions.

I am still struggling with unusual things in the sky and near
the ground. I definitely see how Bloecher felt!


Jan Aldrich
Project 1947
P. O. Box 391
Canterbury, CT 06331
(860) 546-9135

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