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Re: Anyone Up To A Challenge?

From: Jim Speiser <jimspeiser.nul>
Date: Thu, 21 Nov 2002 11:16:00 -0700
Archived: Thu, 21 Nov 2002 07:56:26 -0500
Subject: Re: Anyone Up To A Challenge?

>From: Mac Tonnies <macbot.nul>
>Date: Mon, 18 Nov 2002 14:31:36 -0800 (PST)
>To: UFO UpDates - Toronto <ufoupdates.nul>
>Subject: Re: Anyone Up To A Challenge?

>>From: Eleanor White <eleanor.nul>
>>To: UFO UpDates - Toronto <ufoupdates.nul>
>>Date: Mon, 18 Nov 2002 09:39:16 -0500
>>Subject: Anyone Up To A Challenge?

>These Christian UFO debunkers are a bizarre lot. They've got no
>problem at all with the downright supernatural, but go into a
>frenzy at the notion of the merely unusual or exotic.

I once met a Christian UFO debunker at a CSICOP conference (yes,
I've been to three). He was not, however, bizarre, nor was he a

His name was Fr. Lucien Kemble, and he was a Benedictine monk,
an astronomer. He did not claim that UFOs were the work of
angels or the devil.

His interest in the subject was that he did not want to see the
"true paranormal experience of the universe itself - God's
creation" get lost in a flurry of distracting false claims.

Despite my atheism and my support of Ufology, we became fast
friends, and light-heartedly debated each other in writing over
the next few years.

He was a wonderful man, and I wish I hadn't lost track of him.

Which is not to argue against your basic point, but I thought
that anecdote would provide an interesting exception to the


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