From: Jan Aldrich <project1947.nul> Date: Tue, 19 Nov 2002 17:33:7 -0500 Archived: Tue, 19 Nov 2002 07:08:58 -0500 Subject: Re: Media & 'Truth' >From: John Velez <johnvelez.aic.nul> >To: ufoupdates.nul >Date: Mon, 18 Nov 2002 16:54:46 -0500 >Subject: Re: Media & 'Truth' >>From: Paul Kimball <Kimballwood.nul> >>To: ufoupdates.nul >>Date: Sat, 16 Nov 2002 22:08:18 EST >>Subject: Re: Media & 'Truth' >>>From: John Velez <johnvelez.aic.nul> >>>To: ufoupdates.nul >>>Date: Sat, 16 Nov 2002 12:03:25 -0500 >>>Subject: Re: Media & 'Truth' >>Dear Mr. Velez: >><snip> >I don't think even contracts would make a difference. I've >>>gotten to the point where I ask one question and one question >>>only when ever I am invited to participate in one of these 'UFO' >>>programs: "Is the material being presented as 'news' or as >>'>entertainment'? The end result... I haven't consented to do >>>anything I have been invited to participate in for more than >>>three years. >>>We don't need no stinking contracts!' We just need to refuse to >>>participate in any more 'for entertainment only' productions >>>that we are invited to appear in. >>As a lawyer who also happens to be a film and television >>producer/director, I can only respond by saying that you always >>need contracts, and they do make a difference. Further, they're >>always open to negotiation. >Although I do appreciate your comments Paul, I'm not surprised >that a lawyer would consider contracts as necessary as air. :) >I was talking about out and out misinformation however. My >comment about contracts was an aside to the main topic of media >deception and manipulation. Those are the real issues. <snip> Hi Paul, John, and List, Not quite on your topic about media, but in the ball park: Well, on the last NOVA production, I think we have many things that were working there. You have Sagan telling people that the Hills' case was the best evidence for UFOs. Really? I have never thought so and especially for a physical scientist like Sagan how is it the best case? Who told Sagan that? How did he get this idea? Now, the second thing that probably offended Sagan, a seance conducted by Betty Hill when he visited her home. I am sure that didn't go very far to convincing him this was real evidence. The star map is all well and good, but it works only if you can demonstrate conclusively that something is there, rather than "looks like" some actual star positions. That gets you nowhere. So you have one of America's most popular scientific authority telling people there is nothing to the 'best evidence'. But what do we expect? Do we, that is, ufologists or ufo proponents, have any responsibilities here or is it only the big bad media or High Culture that caused this type of situation? I think the answer is, yes, ufologists bear some of the blame! It is almost universal that UFOs are considered in the paranormal category. So we have the same type of phenomenon as ghosts, spirits, occults, etc.? Really? We have been pigeon holed by various cataloguers and others here. Yes, there are people in ufology that think so, too, but many others do not. Many of the same people who decry the lack of scientific attention seem not to care that this is how ufology is perceived - a paranormal phenomenon. Where are the cries of protest against such categorization? I think there are few, and many are very satisfied to be so categorized, but our evidence is so categorized by association. I received a telephone call awhile back that went something like this, Caller: "Hello, is this the Aldrich who was active in UFOs and paranormal phenomena?" Me: "This is Jan Aldrich and yes, I am interested in UFOs, but I don't think paranormal has anything to do with it. They, UFOs, exist in the physical universe, that is my concern. Who is this?" Caller: "My mistake, I thought you were a UFO believer?" click. How pitiful! But, then, again a good illustration of our situation. John, you will probably never talk to me again or answer me again after this, but I think abductions are at the end of the line of that which should be considered in ufology. First and foremost, despite the universal theories by many abduction investigators, I don't think we know squat about what is occurring here. Here is, what I see from my perch, one that I will admit has a limited field of vision. 1. Some 'abductees' have deep problems, and they need help from mental health professionals. I have letters from a very intelligent woman who apparently is also member of upper society, and who has serious mental problems. Her story is that the Aliens and the Communists are chasing her and have been since her husband, a newspaper publisher, died. She now rides buses up and down the East Coast never staying in one place for more than a few months. She sends letters from a variety of places, a beauty salon, a diner, a laundromat and receives answers at such places. 2. Some 'abductees' have stories which are very similar to child sex abuse stories. They are tortured or used sexually by entities who have almost complete power over them. 3. Some 'abductees' are the voice of the abductors. I call these the "queen bees" that will tell us all there is to know about the aliens. While people hang around listening to every word like recievied wisdom. And, of course, each story gets better than the one before. "I have one abductee who murdered a Grey." "The Greys are getting tired of the Rebel Reptilians! If things do not change, there will be an interstellar war with earth at the center in the next six months!" I didn't make this up, but heard this at the 1996 MUFON Symposium, I promise. 4. Some 'abductees' are jumping on the band wagon. I received a letter from a country and western singer. He had a UFO crash story from 1947 in Colorado, and, of course, recently he had been abducted. Do you think his stories might help his music career? (I did an extensive search in Colorado for any evidence of unusual activities there during the supposed crash.) My friend took a telephone call from a fellow who wanted to know "all about UFOs" because if he did, then he could be abducted, and then, he could be in book about his abduction, go all over the country lecturing, get on TV and become famous. Hmmm. 5. Finally, there are military or intelligence people going around the country kidnapping, torturing and planting abduction scenarios in people's heads as part of insidious mind control experiments. The popularity of such ideas in the UFO community astounds and disgusts me! The Viet Vietnam war brought out the worst in some in the military. A great deal of soul-searching went into development of senior leaders after this searing national experience. That people of integrity would not step forward and denounce such actions is hard to believe. The proof of such paranoid ideas is thin indeed. Recently, in trying to organize material which came from the Brazilian physician, Dr. Olavos Fontes, I found a copy of a letter he had written to Alexander Mebane, in 1958, concerning the AVB case. Mebane, besides the Lorenzens, was one of the few people outside Brazil who Fontes contacted about the case at this time. This was well over a year after the AVB abduction allegedly occurred. Fontes' treatment is nearly clinical, he mentions his problems with contactee, occupant and this abduction cases. Fontes is careful to let Mebane know that he does not necessarily buy into any such stories. He wants Mebane's input. (Now we have Coral championing the "little men" cases as opposed to contactees, but she did not come out with anything about the AVB case until others had published it. Perhaps a wise choice. Look what happened to McDonald after reviewing Bloecher's work saying we might be interested in examining humanoid cases more carefully. And my 'Disclosure' friends, look what happened to McDonald in Congress--and at the hands of a Congressman who agreed and voted with McDonald on his environment opinions.) Two asides here. Child sexual abuse is very traumatic and devastating to the victim. When this occurs within families, many times the victim get no support or help from other family members, this is the ultimate tragedy and betray. Victims are told to "Get over it. Put this behind you." So the perpetrator gets a free pass while the victim may get the blame that the incident(s) happened. Sometimes therapists and activists in this area do more harm then good. Despite how terrible child sexual abuse is, there are also such crazy stories as Rose-Ann recovering memories of child abuse when she was six months old or pre-school kids telling a jury that they were forced to have sex with animals. Of course, how the giraffes got into the build was not explained. There is abuse, no question. To rid us of the abuse, there is sometimes a witch hunt mentality that does more harm than good. Do abductee investigators sometimes exhibit the same zeal mentioned above? IMO, abductees could fall into the following categories: 1) People with deep seated mental health issues, 2) Charlatans and exploiters, 3) Band wagon followers, 4) People who are giving us symptoms of some other traumatic experience in their lives, 5) People who are convinced by 'investigators' that their problems or a mysterious incident(s) in their lives arise from an abduction experience, 6) Now I don't know what to make of the AVB case, nor the Hills case, nor say the Bluff Ledge case nor dozens nor scores nor maybe hundreds nor even thousand of others. Something very strange may be operating here, but I am puzzled as to what it is. I certainly do not buy grand unified theories offered so far. The evidence for abduction being an extraterrestrial experiment or breeding program is tenuous to say the least. Maybe there are people who are convinced to their souls that is the case. However, they must offer proof to someone who is not inside their minds that such is indeed the case. Now people like Gersten trying to use abductions as Constitutional issue in the courts may play well to the UFO community and make him an Hero of American Ufology, 1st Class, but it has no traction in the general community. The questions of UFOs is, as Robert Low of the Condon Committee once remarked, a nested question. Is there something unique and unknown in some UFO reports? Low's answer to his own question was most probably, yes. If so, are there current ideas about UFOs which might answer what UFOs are? ETH for example. Maybe. I would take this one step further. Do UFOs represent unknown or little understood phenomenon (or phenomena)? If so, are some of these phenomena actually intelligence directed probes by outside forces? Are abductions part of the UFO experience? Nested questions. Many on this List have already made the connections above. They want to evangelize it. Well, most people outside the UFO community don't take this seriously; so these connections are only quaint ideas to them, the subject of raw jokes and skits on late night television. Let's say that there are a few UFO cases that prove something strange is going on here? Does that mean that we should mobilize all the weirdos in the UFO community and assault High Culture with every idea that has been put forth about UFOs in the last 50 years? No, most would answer. But even if we take just a few weird ideas forward with our evidence does that mean there will be a good hearing? I think that is exactly what we are currently seeing. An analogy, if you will, take a good, well written, closely reasoned paper on some subject. Throw it in a garbage can with rotting, composing, gooey trash, mix thoroughly and let sit overnight. Then, carry the garbage can into some High Culture venue, a scientific meeting, a Congressional Committee, etc., dump the stinking mess on the beautiful mahogany tables or desks of the High Culture leaders, and tell them, there might be something good in this garbage can, but it is to them to sort it out. No, it is up to us to take the best possible stuff, go over ten ways from Thursday and take up there. I don't think conspiracy theories, theories on secret planet X strolling through the solar system foretold in Sumerian texts or, sorry, the current abduction stories and ideas will do it. That we are many times used as entertainment is not too surprising, considering the actions and antics of some 'ufologists'. I would not expect too much from the producers of NOVA or the like, they don't recognize that we are anything put bunch of kooks or deluded children! You may make promises to children that you don't intend to keep. It is like keeping the attention of small children or getting good behaviour with impossible promises that will temporarily divert the child. Okay, I know that the above will cause some brickbats to come my way. Please don't edit little snippets out here and there. Please answer the whole thing or not at all. Thank you. Speaking solely for myself. Jan Aldrich I will be in my bomb shelter as I know the 50 megaton nukes are currently on the way to Northeast Connecticut!
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