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Re: Jimmy Carter The Nobel Prize &

From: Bob Young <YoungBob2.nul>
Date: Tue, 19 Nov 2002 02:42:28 EST
Archived: Tue, 19 Nov 2002 07:04:15 -0500
Subject: Re: Jimmy Carter The Nobel Prize &

>From: Jerry Cohen <rjcohen.nul>
>To: ufoupdates.nul
>Date: Mon, 18 Nov 2002 11:52:51 -0500
>Subject: Jimmy Carter The Nobel Prize & Extraterrestrials

Robert Sheaffer has asked me to post the following comment about
this discussion and one on another List about the Betty Hill

Bob Young



Fundamentally, Greg Sandow is arguing that no witness of any
event, UFO or otherwise, ever makes the slightest error or
misperception in later recounting it. Therefore, if there is
even a minor discrepancy between what was _reported_, and the
proposed prosaic explanation, then the prosaic explanation is
excluded. It follows from Greg's line of argument that
eyewitness accounts, such as Mrs. Hill's, are not merely
reliable, but little short of _infallible_. (This, of course,
flies in the face of everything that is known about the
inaccuracy and malleability of human perception and memory.)

Similarly, people are arguing that since Jimmy Carter said that
his UFO was 30 degrees up, and Venus was only 25 degrees up,
Carter's UFO couldn't possibly have been Venus. Same argument,
same fallacy.

In both cases, the ufologists are ignoring an important
skeptical argument: If Betty Hill was seeing a real UFO, then
there would have been _3_ starlike objects near the moon:
Jupiter, Saturn, and the UFO. But she reported seeing only two.
Similarly, Carter did not say that he saw two bright objects
towards the west - Venus and his UFO - he saw only one."

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