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Re: Anyone Up To A Challenge?

From: Royce J. Myers III - The UFO Watchdog <ufowatchdog.nul>
Date: Mon, 18 Nov 2002 15:54:54 -0800
Archived: Tue, 19 Nov 2002 06:57:58 -0500
Subject: Re: Anyone Up To A Challenge?

>From: Eleanor White <eleanor.nul>
>To: UFO UpDates - Toronto <ufoupdates.nul>
>Date: Mon, 18 Nov 2002 09:39:16 -0500
>Subject: Anyone Up To A Challenge?

>Last evening, on Coast to Coast AM, host Barbara Simpson
>interviewed astronomer and physicist Dr. Hugh Ross, who has
>written a boot titled "Lights in the Sky and Little Green Men".

>He is also a Christian minister, and offers the opinion that the
>many UFO incidents where physical traces were observed on the
>earth are in fact "angelic being" effects. His bottom line is
>that since UFOs "can't get here from there", the answer is
>probably real but non-material other dimensional beings.

>Dr. Ross needs to be challenged, which is something Barbara
>Simpson does not do. He is listened to by the public through
>lectures and books.

Don't ever count anyone on Coast To Coast to challenge any of
the guests. It just doesn't happen. When plenty of evidence
points to fraud or guests that are completely misconstruing
facts, then Coast To Coast generally buries its head in the
sand. The program had plenty of info showing the Reed UFO Fraud
to be just that - all the info was ignored. Hell, the show
decided to not even comment on the fact that, even after giving
"Dr.Reed" _seven_ uncontested appearances, it was a fraud when
it was exposed. Coast To Coast has been given info about many of
its fraudulent guests, but that doesn't stop them from putting
them on the air.

>Dr. Ross made three points in particular that curled my toes:

>1. That the _only_ common factor among people who
>have "residual" UFO sightings or "those _alleged_
>abductions" is that those people are all involved in
>the _occult_ ! ("Residual" meaning "not explainable")

I knew it, UFOs are a massive occult conspiracy!! Talk about
complete ignorance. Ross is smoking crack backwards. We all know
that he can't prove his ideological/paranoid fantasy. I have one
thing to ask Ross: Where's your hard data? We all know this guy
is full of it.

>2. UFOs cannot travel faster than light because they
>cannot violate the laws of physics.

Oh, right. And we'll never break the sound barrier, we'll never
go to the moon, the US Patent Office shouldn't issue any more
patents because everything possible has already been invented,
the earth is flat, blah, blah, blah. If this were Salem, Mass,
I'm sure Ross would be lighting fires and burning "witches"...

>3. The government is hopelessly inept and cannot keep
>a secret for more than a short time.

Anyone with an ounce of common sense knows better than this. I
am not a conspiracy nut, but if the Feds don't want info getting
out, it doesn't get out.

>I would love to hear, on SDI, a Dr. Joe Nickel style discussion
>in which the researchers who have appeared there as guests could
>challenge these assumptions. (For listers who didn't hear the
>show, Dr. Joe Nickel of CSICOP was interviewed and challenged on
>SDI some months ago.)

I take back what I said about Coast To Coast hosts not
challenging guests - Nickell was the exception here. Though
Bell's attempt to challenge Nickell on the air was a dismal
failure, Bell did try at every painful turn to engage Nickell in
a debate.

>As to the "every residual experiencer is involved with the
>occult" assertion, I have no data to rebut that, but I doubt
>that is so, and one caller insisted he had two very vivid
>sightings and has no occult connections nor does he drink or use
>illegal drugs.

>The biggest gap in the interview was that Barbara Simpson didn't
>ask him for the _source_ of that data.

Again, don't expect the folks at Coast To Coast to ask for any
hard proof or to go after it, it doesn't happen on that show.
Remember, these people are entertainers...oh, wait,
reporters...uh entertainers? Well, they really can't make up
their minds...

>For these reasons, I'd like to ask if Errol and his regular show
>participants might be interested in having another scientist on,
>that some of his assertions might be at least partly challenged?

I'm of the opinion that Ross would try to turn it into a
religious debate, which Ross appears to base his "data" on.


Royce J. Myers III

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