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Anyone Up To A Challenge?

From: Eleanor White <eleanor.nul>
Date: Mon, 18 Nov 2002 09:39:16 -0500
Archived: Mon, 18 Nov 2002 06:14:11 -0500
Subject: Anyone Up To A Challenge?

Last evening, on Coast to Coast AM, host Barbara Simpson
interviewed astronomer and physicist Dr. Hugh Ross, who has
written a boot titled "Lights in the Sky and Little Green Men".

He is also a Christian minister, and offers the opinion that the
many UFO incidents where physical traces were observed on the
earth are in fact "angelic being" effects. His bottom line is
that since UFOs "can't get here from there", the answer is
probably real but non-material other dimensional beings.

Dr. Ross needs to be challenged, which is something Barbara
Simpson does not do. He is listened to by the public through
lectures and books.

Dr. Ross made three points in particular that curled my toes:

1. That the _only_ common factor among people who
  have "residual" UFO sightings or "those _alleged_
  abductions" is that those people are all involved in
  the _occult_ ! ("Residual" meaning "not explainable")

2. UFOs cannot travel faster than light because they
  cannot violate the laws of physics.

3. The government is hopelessly inept and cannot keep
  a secret for more than a short time.

I would love to hear, on SDI, a Dr. Joe Nickel style discussion
in which the researchers who have appeared there as guests could
challenge these assumptions. (For listers who didn't hear the
show, Dr. Joe Nickel of CSICOP was interviewed and challenged on
SDI some months ago.)

As to the "every residual experiencer is involved with the
occult" assertion, I have no data to rebut that, but I doubt
that is so, and one caller insisted he had two very vivid
sightings and has no occult connections nor does he drink or use
illegal drugs.

The biggest gap in the interview was that Barbara Simpson didn't
ask him for the _source_ of that data.

As to assertion 2, "can't violate the laws of physics", this is
particularly hypocritical because he stated that today's physics
community is pretty well convinced there are at least ten
dimensions. His position implied that he knows all there is to
know about physics, _including_what_physics_
might_be_discovered_once_access_to_other_dimensions_ is_
accomplished_. I'm surprised to hear any mainstream scientist
make such a claim.

As to assertion 3, that "the government is hopelessly inept at
keeping secrets", I do know something about that.

I follow activism efforts in a number of government crime
arenas, and am well acquainted with one of the most grievous
government crimes ever committed in the past and present. In
that particular arena, we have seen "seeming ineptness" used as
_deliberate_cover_ for illegal activity.

(Closely related to "seeming ineptness" is the "it didn't work
anyway so we stopped" assertion.)

Using ineptness as cover is clever because it keeps the public
primed with that impression. Unfortunately, Coast to Coast AM's
interviewers do not seem to know that ineptness is used as a
cover up method.

For these reasons, I'd like to ask if Errol and his regular show
participants might be interested in having another scientist on,
that some of his assertions might be at least partly challenged?

Eleanor White

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