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Re: Media & 'Truth'

From: John Velez <johnvelez.aic.nul>
Date: Sat, 16 Nov 2002 12:03:25 -0500
Archived: Sat, 16 Nov 2002 06:05:38 -0500
Subject: Re: Media & 'Truth'

>From: Don Ledger <dledger.nul>
>To: UFO UpDates - Toronto <ufoupdates.nul>
>Date: Sat, 16 Nov 2002 10:45:13 -0400
>Subject: Re: Media & 'Truth' [was: Re: Sci-Fi Channel]

>>From: Steven Kaeser <steve.nul>
>>To: <ufoupdates.nul>
>>Date: Fri, 15 Nov 2002 21:32:02 -0500
>>Subject: Re: Sci-Fi Channel

>>>From: Don Ledger <dledger.nul>
>>>To: UFO UpDates - Toronto <ufoupdates.nul>
>>>Date: Fri, 15 Nov 2002 20:37:52 -0400
>>>Subject: Re: Sci-Fi Channel


>>>Yeah, it's a problem. It seems we should set up an advisory
>>>committee for the media and production companies and then send
>>>out a circular to as many of those as we can telling them about
>>>it. Like the BBB of ufology. Trouble is, who decides who should
>>>be spokespeople for the phenomenon? It could open a real can of
>>>worms, leading to favoritism and acrimony. The best bet would be
>>>a directory with each listed, a bio, their bona fides and their
>>>field of endeavour. I can't see it working though.

>>Agreed. But there's the other side of the coin where production
>>companies take as much from the researcher as they can and then
>>slice it and dice it to fit their program objective. I've spoken
>>with those who've chosen to not work on projects where they
>>simply feel they're being used.

Hi Don, Steve, All,

Don wrote:

>Hi Steve,

>You do get lied to. You never know what's going to happen in

Shades of NOVA! When Budd asked me to participate in the NOVA
segment I insisted on speaking with the segment producer myself
before I made my decision. At that meeting with Denise DiIanni
and her assistant I was assured that NOVA was going to take an
impartial look at the abduction phenomenon and that the
witnesses/abductees were going to be given a "fair hearing". I
even volunteered to take any kind of tests (physical,
psychological or otherwise) that may have wished to perform.

What we got was; a biased/slanted presentation where portions of
the interviews they taped with the witnesses were selectively
edited in between the comments of people like Robert Baker,
Elizabeth Loftus, and Michael Persinger (as if) they were
talking about us and our cases.

None of the researchers had ever met any of us, spoken to any
one of us or even requested to peruse our case files to find out
specifically what it was we were reporting. Yet they allowed
that broadcast to give the impression that they were discussing
us and our cases. The producers at NOVA had a debunking agenda
from the beginning. They lied to us about it. They
misrepresented themselves. And they had no problem deceiving
anybody they had to in order to accomplish their goal which was
apparently to assure the audience that there is nothing to any
claims of UFO abduction and that the public has nothing to fear
or worry about.

Which is simply not true.

>I think though that there is enough interest in the phenomenon
>by the media and the production companies to allow the community
>as a whole to apply some pressure and enforce a few guidelines.

Not if it interferes with their own agenda.

>If everyone insisted on some do's and don'ts and demanded
>contracts - down the road we might see some improvements.

I don't think even contracts would make a difference. I've
gotten to the point where I ask one question and one question
only when ever I am invited to participate in one of these 'UFO'
programs: "Is the material being presented as 'news' or as
'entertainment'? The end result... I haven't consented to do
anything I have been invited to participate in for more than
three years.

'We don't need no stinking contracts!' We just need to refuse to
participate in any more 'for entertainment only' productions
that we are invited to appear in.

Without us... they have no Show.

Hmmm, but then, there are always a few who will do anything just
to see their own mug on the idiot box. Oh well, can't win em


John Velez, learning all my lessons the hard way.

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