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Re: Dorothy Izatt?

From: Stanton Friedman <fsphys.nul>
Date: Sat, 16 Nov 2002 12:47:07 -0400
Archived: Sat, 16 Nov 2002 06:05:05 -0500
Subject: Re: Dorothy Izatt?

>From: Larry Hatch <larry.nul>
>To: UFO UpDates - Toronto <ufoupdates.nul>,
>Date: Sat, 16 Nov 2002 01:19:16 -0800
>Subject: Re: Dorothy Izatt?

>>From: Chris Burns <Thurstonoreggae.nul>
>>To: ufoupdates.nul, larry.nul
>>Date: Thu, 14 Nov 2002 23:18:44 EST
>>Subject: Re: Dorothy Izatt?


>I consider myself a UFO student of the nuts-and-bolts
>persuasion. My position is that mixing the supernatural,
>contactees, the occult (whatever that is) and mysticism in
>general, will do nothing but muddy the waters in the already
>difficult, almost impossibly confusing study of UFOs. I thought
>that was blatantly obvious.

>I'm surprised UFO-BC put up the Izatt pages.

>You never heard any criticism of Izatt? Maybe that's
>because many/most of us never heard of her .. I never
>did. Maybe those who did felt it wasn't worth the bother.

>Perhaps we should thank the "ghost heads", whoever they are, for
>keeping their wagons out of the UFO arena. That is to their
>credit, and I wish the proponents of other peripheral/paranormal
>issues would do the same.

>Finally, you mention Berthold Schwarz. I'm curious now. Did
>you learn of Izatt via Schwarz, or was it the other way around,
>or both via the pages of UFO-BC, or was it something else

>Maybe Izatt and Schwarz have something in common, but I can't
>quite put my finger on it. I did a very cursory browse for
>Berthold Schwarz (note spelling) and the first thing that popped
>up was:

>" Dr. Berthold Schwarz Attests to Pyrokinetic and
>Levitation Abilities of Joey Nuzum.." see link:


>The phrase mind-mush keeps ringing in my ears for some reason,
>but that's probably prejudicial on my part.

>Please do not take offense at all this. I will try to answer any
>further questions as honestly as I can.

Just briefly because I will be gone from Nov. 18-27, I met
Dorothy many years ago in British Columbia. Nice lady. I was not
at all impressed with her photos or her stories. I didn't think
she was lying, but overinterpreting what she was seeing.

I met Bert many years ago. A medical Doctor psychiatrist with
wide interests and the guts to publish in Medical Journals about
UFOs. He was also able to obtain medical records relating to the
Falcon Lake case.

Yes, he has very esoteric interests. But I can't hold them
against him. He has published a couple of books, at least. Lives
in Vero Beach, Florida the last I heard.

Stan Friedman

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