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Re: Disclosure Witnesses & Credibility

From: Robet Gates <RGates8254.nul>
Date: Thu, 14 Nov 2002 01:15:55 EST
Archived: Thu, 14 Nov 2002 16:05:49 -0500
Subject: Re: Disclosure Witnesses & Credibility

>From: Edward Case <sloweddy.nul>
>To: <ufoupdates.nul>
>Date: Wed, 13 Nov 2002 03:10:50 -0800 (PST)
>Subject: Re: Disclosure Witnesses & Credibility

>[Non-Subscriber Post--ebk]

>From: Edward Case
>For:Submission to the UFO Mailing List

>>From: Don Ledger <dledger.nul>
>>To: UFO UpDates - Toronto <ufoupdates.nul>
>>Date: Tue, 12 Nov 2002 22:34:44 -0400
>>Subject: Disclosure Witnesses & Credibility

>>I've noted much about Dr. Greer on this and other Lists. Most
>>agree that Greer himself leaves something to be desired where
>>credibility is concerned. However what concerns me is the
>>possibility that the baby might be being thrown out with the

>>What is the concensus on this List regarding the quality of the
>>disclosures by those witnesses that appeared during Greer's
>>Disclosure Project?

>>Has anyone broken down the presenters into groups as to the
>>credibility of their disclosures?

>>Is there a list of these presenters and their topics, somewhere?

>You have raised a very important point. I think it is critical
>that people who are interested in the truth about UFOs take a
>good look at the credibility of the Disclosure Project
>witnesses. Some of them may be unreliable - but the most
>important question is: "are any of them telliing the truth, and
>if so, who?".


Some of Greer's witnesses are high caliber, verifiable etc etc.
Some are not and can't be verified. Supposedly at one point
Greer claimed that they were going to check out these witnesses,
then at another point his people emailed me about not having the
time or money to check out the stories and more importantly was
to get the stories out in public etc., etc. In yet another email
his people were claiming they were going to let the
Congressional investigators investigate the backgrounds of the

Can you imagine the foolishness of that? Lets say hearings are
actually scheduled. One party or the other will be against them,
blathering about how they are a waste of time, why we should be
spending time and money on more earthly problems. Picture what
happens when some of these Congressional people get wind of the
fact that witness backgrounds are not checking out? It will be
used as a weapon to discredit any and all storys told.

>In response to your request I have posted a copy of a DP
>witness list and a url for the website that I got it from.

>Overall I have been very impressed with the high caliber of
>people and content at this list - but when I read the post's on
>this list about Dr. Greer, I was disappointed. The responses
>were mostly negative and seemed to miss the most critical
>point. By focusing on his possible shortcomings - people were
>downplaying the importance of the Disclosure Project witness
>testimony, and the National Press Club conference in May 2001.

Not 'possible shortcomings' but actual credibility problems...
which need to be addressed before, not after.

Not to mention Greer's apparent bias that 'all ET's are
essentially saviours' so to speak, just waiting to help us poor
earthlings and any evidence that suggests more sinister intents
is manufactured by the US govt to make ET look bad etc etc.



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