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Re: Disclosure Witnesses & Credibility

From: Steven Kaeser <steve.nul>
Date: Wed, 13 Nov 2002 10:24:49 -0500
Archived: Wed, 13 Nov 2002 15:40:56 -0500
Subject: Re: Disclosure Witnesses & Credibility

>From: Edward Case <sloweddy.nul>
>To: <ufoupdates.nul>
>Date: Wed, 13 Nov 2002 03:10:50 -0800 (PST)
>Subject: Re: Disclosure Witnesses & Credibility

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>From: Edward Case
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>>From: Don Ledger <dledger.nul>
>>To: UFO UpDates - Toronto
>>Date: Tue, 12 Nov 2002 22:34:44 -0400
>>Subject: Disclosure Witnesses & Credibility

>>I've noted much about Dr. Greer on this and other Lists. Most
>>agree that Greer himself leaves something to be desired  where
>>credibility is concerned. However what concerns me is the
>>possibility that the baby might be being thrown out with the

>>What is the concensus on this List regarding the quality of the
>>disclosures by those witnesses that appeared during Greer's
>>Disclosure Project?

>>Has anyone broken down the presenters into groups as to the
>>credibility of their disclosures?

>>Is there a list of these presenters and their topics, somewhere?

>You have raised a very important point. I think it is critical
>that people who are interested in the truth about UFOs take a
>good look at the credibility of the Disclosure Project
>witnesses. Some of them may be unreliable - but the most
>important question is: "are any of them telliing the truth, and
>if so, who?".


The question that has to be raised is whether or not the stories
being told by these witnesses make a difference, and so far they
have not (IMO).

Many of the witnesses were not new to researchers, who had
rejected some of them for credibility reasons and others because
their importance to the genre was very tenuous. A few raised
issues that should be properly investigated, but that hasn't
really taken place and I've not seen any effort in that regard.

Perhaps we should try to compile a list of those witnesses that
should be followed up on. As an example, reviewing Gorden
Cooper's beliefs and comments in regard to UFOs can be
interesting, but don't really add to the effort since that's
rather old news. When asked seperately, I think you'll also find
the individual witnesses do not necessarily support the
conclusions being promoted by the Disclosure Project group.

We've had many discussions regarding Dr. Greer, and we don't
need to rehash them now. I'd be very interested in identifying
specific witnesses that can add substance to this investigation,
but merely listing a number of people with titles isn't all that
impressive for me.


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