From: Bob Young <YoungBob2.nul> Date: Thu, 7 Nov 2002 15:30:32 EST Archived: Thu, 07 Nov 2002 13:08:41 -0400 Subject: Re: Jimmy Carter The Nobel Prize & Errol: Please post this response to Jerry Cohen from non-subscriber Robert Sheaffer. Thanks. Bob Young -------------------- >From: Jerry Cohen <rjcohen.nul> >Date: Sun, 03 Nov 2002 00:58:42 -0500 >To: UFO UpDates - Toronto <ufoupdates.nul> >Subject: Re: Jimmy Carter The Nobel Prize & Extraterrestrials <snip> Jerry Cohen reveals how little he has researched the Jimmy Carter UFO case when he says (Nov. 3), "Then I found myself asking 'I wonder who Bob Scheaffer interviewed?' No supporting evidence was given to make it possible for others to check what he says in this regard." Had he bothered to read my book 'UFO Sightings' (or its earlier incarnation, "The UFO Verdict"), he would have found a long chapter on the Carter UFO, explaining exactly who I interviewed and what they said. He might have even spelled my name correctly. (In fact, I interviewed even more Leary residents than I mentioned, but to keep a reasonable length I left out several.) Once again, we find a "serious" UFOlogist arguing against an analysis he hasn't even read. Jerry, you gotta at least READ what the people you don't like have to say, if you want to argue against them without looking like a fool. So, Carter said that the UFO was in the west, instead of the southwest? He said it was 30 degrees up instead of 25? Nobody ever makes errors like this in estimating an object's position, do they? If Carter had also seen Venus, he could have said, "the object was just to the left of Venus, and above it," and that would have ruled out Venus as a suspect. But he didn't. In all probability, Venus *was* his mysterious UFO. I invite anyone who thinks this case is so great to look at a 1978 newspaper story on my web page: http://www.debunker.com/texts/carter_ufo.html about this case, "Learyites leery of Carter's encounter." It says, "As it happens, however, there is no one in Leary who remembers sighting a UFO in company with the future president. Carter insists that the object's brightness attracted a crowd, but it appears it only attracted him. Not one resident recalls anything unusual about that particular January evening..... Mayor Stanley Shepard says he has talked with everyone who might have attended the Lions Club meeting on the night in question, 'and nobody remembers anything about flying saucers.' People recall that Carter's speech was dull - but as for spaceships, no...". Remember, I didn't write that, a reporter did. Whatever Carter 'thinks' that he might have seen that evening in Leary, he's the only one who thought he saw anything out of the ordinary. If there were truly something amazing flying around the sky that night, the others with him would surely have remarked on it, and remembered it. Robert Sheaffer robert.nul Skeptical to the Max!
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