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Re: MOGUL Mangled Math - Part 1

From: Dave Morton <Marspyrs.nul>
Date: Wed, 6 Nov 2002 21:11:30 EST
Archived: Thu, 07 Nov 2002 12:47:08 -0400
Subject: Re: MOGUL Mangled Math - Part 1

>From: David Rudiak <DRudiak.nul>
>Date: Wed, 6 Nov 2002 12:44:38 -0800
>Fwd Date: Wed, 06 Nov 2002 16:50:26 -0500
>Subject: Re: MOGUL Mangled Math - Part 1 - Rudiak

>>From: Bruce Hutchinson <bhutch.nul
>>To: <ufoupdates.nul>
>>Date: Sun, 3 Nov 2002 22:39:33 -500
>>Subject: Re: MOGUL Mangled Math - Hutchinson

>>>From: Brad Sparks <removedbyrequest
>>>To: ufoupdates.nul
>>>Date: Sat, 26 Oct 2002 06:36:27 EDT
>>>Subject: MOGUL Mangled Math

>>(Tim asked me to forward this to the List- BH)

>Because of the length, I'm breaking my response to Printy into
>two parts. This first part deals with Printy trying to defend
>Charles Moore's alterations to the original Mogul Flight #5 map.

I printed the Mogul maps and text from David Rudiak's website,
via the link he posted.

Based on what I've seen on the maps so far, I would say:

1. Professor Moore rates an F in map drawing.

2. Tim Printy rates an F in map reading.

From the maps alone (forget the Emails, etc):

Comparing the original "NYU Balloon Project Technical Report #1"
maps with trajectories, to later Moore maps with trajectories
(Figure 17 - 1995, and Figure 6 - 1997):

1. Moore erased Roswell Base (Roswell AAF) beginning in 1995
with Figure 17 (from what book or article?).

2. Moore moved the town of Roswell 2 miles to the west.

3. Moore moved the crash site of Flight #5 13 miles to the east.

4. Moore's statement that "The plot for Flight #5 was taken
without change from Figure 32 in NYU Balloon Project Technical
Report #1..." is apparently true for the plots on Figures 17 and
6 up to the original crash site at about mile 108 from
Alamogordo, but not true for the rest of the plot which has been
extended to about mile 121 from Alamogordo. So this statement is
not true. See old and new plots for comparison.

You can still measure the distance of the balloon track to
Roswell Base, but only if you have an old map to refer to and
draw in the Base yourself.

The distance of the balloon track to the town of Roswell is
irrelevant if one is discussing the distance to the base.

(Rudiak and Sparks have covered many other points, as well).

In summary, I would say Moore's maps and plots beginning in 1995
are worthless, and Printy's comments are a combination of
diversionary garbage and falsehoods, making them even more
worthless than Moore's.

Dave Morton

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